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by SitasMom on 29 September 2012 - 14:09
the debate will be interesting........(or not).
we pop up a huge bowl of popcorn, crank up the volume of the TV, and make an event out of it. when we detect a known lie (from either side) we throw the popcorn at the TV - our dogs love it.

by Keith Grossman on 29 September 2012 - 15:09
And if anyone does the math, he/she will see that my numbers are accurate and that Preston's were fabricated. For example, 13623 (current number of Obama's latest EO according to this list) - 13488 (number of the last EO signed by Bush) = 135 EO's signed by Obama (EO's 13624 - 13627 have apparently not been added to these figures yet which will bring Obama's total to 139 as I stated previously).
by Preston on 29 September 2012 - 21:09
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/09/28/170078/intelligence-office-says-it-got.html
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81808.html
But here is another one too. Caught with his pants down on this one.
http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/industry/259305-omb-tells-contractors-once-again-dont-issue-layoff-notices
Here is another alleged Obama screwup:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/29/world/middleeast/white-house-move-to-give-egypt-450-million-in-aid-meets-resistance.html?_r=0
Remember, they don't call Obama Bush-lite for nothing inside the beltway. He was picked by the same powerful int'l banksters out of the "City of London" Financial District (a separate country with its own ambassadors, just like the Vatican). And he at first continued the same massive multi-trillion dollar bankster bailouts which are immediate taxpayer liabilities (with interest) and has allowed Bernanke to operate his QE2 and now continuing monthly QE's of 40+ Billion USD (some say up to 80). The only thing which prevented an immediate crash is that the QEs are going into banking balances to bolster the oncoming derivatives bubble burst, and not going into circulation since few folks have enough income above expenses to qualify for loans and many don't want any more personal debt anyway. However, as the Euro fails it will temporarily bolster the USD, but only for a while. And then, expect the STHTF.
Recently Obama has allegedly "gone off the reservation" like Clinton did before the Monica Lewinsky bimbo eruption emerged, alleged to be in the process of throwing Bibi and his regime under the bus for having a major role in 911 with a rogue group of the USAF high command. We now have numerous members of the USAF and other military high command that want to come forward and "talk" about what really happened.
Massive pressure is now being brought against Obama by neocons and Bibi to set a red line and take the US Military against Iran in another illegal, unprovoked, unConstitutional war that so far Obama is strongly resisting. Actually the USA is technically bankrupt and cannot afford any more war according to numerous top economists, plus it is gearing up for a major civil war at home inside the continental USA. And the muslim world in the mideast is rapidly turning against the USA. Add to this the new BRIC financial Banking agreemenst and move for China and Russia to deal directly without the USD (aka the world reserve currency, the "Petro dollar") and new "oil bourses" set up to deal in non-USD currencies, and you can see US hegemony may be decreasing quite rapidly under Obama as the many things Bush 2 did are finally coming to the forefront and wreaking havoc.
Thus King and other neocons are furious and in a tizzy fit also, not knowing how to handle a president who seems to have a secret agenda they weren't prepared for. Could this have anything to do with his secret mentor Zbig, who power is much greater and more covert than most have any idea about and who warned neocons about certain emergent world realities but they wouldn't listen. Research what Zbig says, he usually knows what's coming next. And it is important to note that most Iranians and most Israelis want peace and do not want any war. It is the sociopathic leaders, the super-elites that run the major nations of the world that want war to bolster their own power, and they do this by working hard to create conflicts between different nations and ethnic groups, conflicts which would not exist otherwise. False flag attacks are often used to do this.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/28/israeli-rabbis-greet-irans-president-ahmadinejahd-in-nyc-on-yom-kippur/
by beetree on 29 September 2012 - 21:09

by Blitzen on 29 September 2012 - 21:09
by Preston on 30 September 2012 - 00:09
by Blitzen on 30 September 2012 - 12:09
by beetree on 30 September 2012 - 13:09
by SitasMom on 30 September 2012 - 15:09
Who is better off now than they were 6 years ago?
That being said, big governemnt and big spending doesn't work........so why sign up for more of it?

by vonissk on 30 September 2012 - 17:09
Bee I've done that envelope stuffing too. Not for the faint hearted. LOL Before the internet you could get jobs like that to do at home. You don't see those ads anymore. Someone must be doing them cause I get plenty of junk mail. Especially those kind for prepaid funeral plans..................Do ya think they're trying to tell me something? LOL
I have already said in this thread I am better off and I outlined why. Again I am voting for and campaining for Obama because things are getting better and they will continue to. No sense to rehash all the details because my take is you only read and see what you want to.
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