The Ultimate Proof of Creation - Dr. Jason Lisle - Page 22

Moons, scientifically God is not limited by time, space or matter like we are or (stuck in), if he was then he is not God. He said I am that I am, I am alpha and omega. (God) he is going to judge his creation like you judge your kids when they do or did something wrong and especially when they were young, eating your bread and sleeping under your roof.

Moons, I don't disagree in general, but the fact is, the world is made up of believers and non-believers. If we're going to get anywhere in conversation (here, or anywhere), at least some from each camp have to drop the baggage.  I just find it ironic that the group who preaches tolerance and diversity the most can often be so diametrically opposite, in practice.  I pick up on the undertones immediately, even as a non-combative representative.  That's just poor, IMO.

So that's it,
timeless beginning and the end?
I could say the same thing of the energy of matter.

Weak...

Doesn't a god have to perform some act as to make himself known, impregnate a human, or speak to humans in dreams or visions?
Make a rainbow or some shit?

Carlin,
you should have mentioned believers themselves are divided, non believers are not divided in that way.
There are more gods than one in mans culture and absolutely no tolerance among them for the other hence wars and slavery..

True, but the potential I find in authentic Christianity, is one in which faith does not have to imposition itself, while remaining intact.  I oppose dominionism, and don't see the historical Jesus as a political figure, though undoubtedly he was politicized at the time between warring factions.  As an example, Christ chose to accept the appearance of being "wrong", humiliated, and did not seek political power or influence.  Later on, the followers experienced persecution for their creed, but accepted the burden as it was by their founder.  That was their faith, and it was just that, as opposed to religion, the societal perversion that would be utilized later when Roman society adopted it, merging it with some of their own traditions and beliefs, eventually becoming a means of political control in medieval Europe after the collapse of the western half of the empire.  What was is largely lost and forgotten by both sides.
 

Carlin I grew up when I started to Listen to the Holy Spirit instead of men like you.
So many times you have said that I do  things the wrong way.
I do them according to  the way the Holy Spirit leads me,and will not do them  the way you say I should.
The man that preached to me for years while I was making a mokery of him and Christ kept with me and put up with me because the Holy Spirit told him to.
The man that broke my jaw,now being a pastor and a speaker must realize now why I never stopped preaching to him and all the people with him,it could only have  been done with the blessings and knowledge and engouragement of the Holy Spirit.
I know that most of the people here are always with you and stick by you,which only tells me the world loves you ,and dislikes me.
I cannot in anyway be part of the world now.Christ bought me and now is the only possesor.
By the way God richly blessed me this morning in the foodland  parking lot.
I had the priviledge to witness to a 86 year old man.Do things ever happen to you that way Carlin?
They happen to me very often,and it is such a  heavenly experience  especially when at times I feel a little down.
God knows how to cheer me up.

H ave a nice day
  gouda

Carlin I grew up when I started to Listen to the Holy Spirit instead of men like you.

You still have no idea who I am, or what I'm about.  "Men like you"; so confused you are.

 

So many times you have said that I do  things the wrong way.

I, and other who understand the anchor of the Christian faith that is the Bible have put you on notice that your words and behavior are not consistent with scripture, or the example of Christ.


 

I do them according to  the way the Holy Spirit leads me,

You speak as though you are infallible.  Once again, you are not an island, and don't get to function independently of the rest of the body.  That is scriptural, and will pursue you the rest of your days.

 

I know that most of the people here are always with you and stick by you

Can you even read?  That's a pretty ignorant statement to make given what goes on here. 

 

which only tells me the world loves you ,and dislikes me.

Non sequitur fallacy.  If you are indeed disliked, it's not because you're being persecuted for truth.  You heard it here.

 

I had the priviledge to witness to a 86 year old man.Do things ever happen to you that way Carlin?

Does that make you feel special, privileged somehow, unique, validated?  You have no earthly idea who I am, or where I have been.  I speak to what you say here, while you make assertions regarding that which you have no idea.  I am content to allow you to continue digging the hole, as I have no interest in indulging you, or anyone else for that matter. 




 

CARLIN         it doesnt make me feel special or priviledged, its a direct command from JESUS TO ALL TRUE BELIEVERS.


   gouda

You asked me "if things like that ever happen".  Something "happening", implies chance or providence, as opposed to obedience to a command.

Lol weak? Did you watch that video few pages back about universe?