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GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 27 April 2014 - 03:04

BE,

You are so confused, are you sure it isn't this story you are confusing with your story, LMFAO.

Notice I post a link to my story - http://www.suprmchaos.com/bcEnt-Tue-073002.index.html

 

HISTORY LESSON FROM HELL


 

The only known photograph of Chadsworth W. Bush,
George W's great-great uncle
standing on the gallows platform
about to be hung for bank robbery and stock fraud
in Connecticut in 1899. 
 
  Stay tuned for the rest of the story.

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 27 April 2014 - 05:04

How about that CRAZY uncle Ron ...

Lmao  !!!


GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 27 April 2014 - 05:04

How about the truth? Not some made up non-sense. Another post of yours debunked. LMAO.

 

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/remus-rudd-hanged-horse-thief-hoax.shtml

 

 

1901: “Black Jack” Tom Ketchum, who was left in three pieces

On this date in 1901, a two-bit outlaw from a vanishing frontier made his reservations for hell.

Tom Ketchum — who had become known as “Black Jack” when misidentified with another hombre he resembled — was the last man to hang in America for attempting to rob a train. Given the way the authorities in Clayton, N.M., conducted the job, that’s probably for the best.


 

This Texas-born outlaw enjoyed a colorful career in the 1890s Southwest plundering trains, killing folk, and other distinctively American pastimes. His name attaches to the [in]famous Hole in the Wall Gang.

He was finally caught attempting a dangerous one-man train robbery, when a conductor (taking part in his third stickup, and tired of being on the wrong end of the gunbarrel) got the drop on Ketchum and winged him with a shotgun. Too weakened by his injury to escape, Ketchum surrendered himself to the law, and his wounded arm to the surgeons.

The un-amputated remainder belonged to Clayton, N.M. — New Mexico Territory, that is, which was not yet a state at this time, but was keen on making an example to stanch the tide of train robberies.

(Formally, the charge that hung Ketchum was “felonious assault upon a railway train”; he was the only person executed for this offense before the Supreme Court decided that a hanging crime needed more victims than just an iron horse. This jurisprudential advance might not have done Black Jack very much good anyway, since neighboring Arizona had also put in an extradition request for murder.)

So far, so good.


 

Then, they actually dropped him.

When the body dropped through the trap the half-inch rope severed the head as cleanly as if a knife had cut it. The body pitched forward with blood spurting from the headless trunk. The head remained in the black sack and flew down into the pit.

SOME MEN GROANED.

Some men groaned and others turned away, unable to endure the sight. For a few seconds the body was allowed to lie there half-doubled up on its right side, with the blood issuing in an intermittent stream from the severed neck as the heart kept on with its mechanical beating. Then with cries of consternation the officers rushed down from the scaffold and lifted the body from the ground. It was only then apparent exactly what happened.

The drop of the body was seven feet and the noose was made so it slipped easily. Ketchum was a heavy man, and the weight of the body, with the easy-running noose, caused the rope to cut the head cleanly off. Dr. Slack pronounced life extinct a little over five minutes from the time the body dropped through the trap. It is stated too much of a drop was given for so heavy a man.

Just so we’re clear: a seven-foot drop is much, much too far for a man of Ketchum’s 190-plus pounds. Maybe they were distracted by rumors of an escape attempt.


 

The newspaper account above cites much more forgettable scaffold-talk from Ketchum, but we can’t help but find charm (and obviously, black humor) in his alleged last words,

I’ll be in hell before you start breakfast, boys! Let her rip!

Fictional? If so, they’re more like what Ketchum’s last words ought to be. Although let St. Peter‘s ledger reflect that Ketchum was a decent enough chap to post a letter to President McKinley on the morning of his own execution copping to several robberies for which other people were imprisoned.

Initially buried — naturally — at Clayton’s Boot Hill, this infernal denizen’s grave can now be found (and more than a century on, tourists and admirers do find it) at Clayton Memorial Cemetery.

 

 



Harry Reid's Horse-Thief Ancestor-Fiction!

Summary of the eRumor:  
This email claims that Judy Wallman, a genealogy researcher, discovered Senator Harry Reid had an ancestor who was hanged as a horse thief and bank robber in 1889.  It was his great-great uncle Remus Reid.  The only picture of him was one of him standing on the gallows just before he was hung and had an inscription on the back describing his crimes, capture, and execution.  The eRumor says that Wallman contacted Harry Reid's office to inquire about great-great uncle Remus and their response was a sanitized version of his story that was expertly created by Reid's image-makers.
 

 

 

 
The Truth:  
This is not true just like it was not true about Hillary Clinton, Al Gore or George W. Bush.  The essence of this story is from an old piece of humorous writing that was designed to demonstrate how you can put "spin" on a negative story to make it sound positive. For example Remus fell off of a platform at a civic function instead of being hanged.  Someone altered the story to make it seem as though it was talking about an ancestor of Al Gore.  Then another version got started saying it was about an ancestor of Hillary Clinton and George W. Bush.  Now there is a version making the rounds saying it is about Senator Harry Reid.

 

updated 01/08/09

 
A real example of the eRumor as it has appeared on the Internet:

Judy Wallman, a professional genealogy researcher here in southern California, was doing some personal work on her own family tree. She discovered that Harry Reid's great-great uncle, Remus Reid, was hanged for horse stealing and train robbery in Montana in 1889. Both Judy and Harry Reid share this common ancestor.

 


Harry Reid

 

The only known photograph of Remus shows him standing on the gallows in Montana territory.

On the back of the picture Judy obtained during her research is this inscription: 'Remus Reid, horse thief, sent to Montana Territorial Prison 1885, escaped 1887, robbed the Montana Flyer six times. Caught by Pinkerton detectives, convicted and hanged in 1889.'

So Judy recently e-mailed Congressman Harry Reid for information about their great-great uncle.

Believe it or not, Harry Reid's staff sent back the following biographical sketch for her genealogy research:

'Remus Reid was a famous cowboy in the Montana Territory. His business empire grew to include acquisition of valuable equestrian assets and intimate dealings with the Montana railroad. Beginning in 1883, he devoted several years of his life to government service, finally taking leave to resume his dealings with the railroad. In 1887, he was a key player in a vital investigation run by the renowned Pinkerton Detective Agency. In 1889, Remus passed away during an important civic function held in his honor when the platform upon which he was standing collapsed.'

NOW THAT is how it's done folks! That's real SPIN.


by vk4gsd on 27 April 2014 - 06:04

BE you looney tunes.

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 27 April 2014 - 14:04

Debunked ?  lol

You are too funny GSDAdmin.


Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 29 April 2014 - 20:04

Well now, reading this was an hour of my life I'll never get back.

A couple of points I'd like to clarify, if I may...first, Bundy is not only a mooch but he's a liar.  His parents bought the 160 acre ranch he occupies in 1948 from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt...so much for "ancestral rights".  That 160 acres, however is his land; that's where he should graze his cattle if he is unwilling to pay the grazing fees he owes.  1,600 other ranchers in Nevada pay theirs so I doubt the meat is going to be disappearing from the grocery shelves any time soon.

Apparently subsidies are perfectly fine so long as they go to middle-class white Christians; anyone else is a parasite.

On the issue of the Army "stealing" the National Guard's helicopters: the National Guard is the Army, stupid.

This Bundy thing isn't over and he can't win, no matter how many illiterate rednecks with guns show up talking to Jesus on a two-way radio.  He is a scofflaw and it's really difficult for me to figure out why that is so diffcult for some to grasp but these teabaggers are making a huge mis-calculation if they honestly believe that the people on the other side of the political spectrum aren't also armed and willing to fight if necessary.

 


by vk4gsd on 29 April 2014 - 22:04

YEEHAAAW TO YEWAH


I EVEN HEAR PEOPLE TOUTING - THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN.....

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 30 April 2014 - 10:04

Gezzuz Keith .. hate much ?  Thinking
 


by vk4gsd on 30 April 2014 - 13:04

Retard much

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 01 May 2014 - 12:05






 


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