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by Mystere on 05 May 2007 - 22:05

HOWLING!!!! NIA

by Mystere on 05 May 2007 - 22:05

HOWLING!!!! NIA

by altostland on 06 May 2007 - 00:05

What is the landmark for May 24th? Why is he only for sale then??

by jdh on 06 May 2007 - 00:05

As usual it is not my intention to belittle anyone, but Hannah, you seem to have the breeding thing all backwards. The only legitimate purpose for breeding dogs is to achieve specific goals with regard to conformation, health, temperament, working ability. Buying a dog to service 3 bitches is putting the cart before the horse. It is also is pointless, as you can easily breed them to any one of HUNDREDS of dogs that are far better than any that you could buy for less than $50K. The proposition of buying a male pup in the hopes that he will grow out to be a breed worthy dog with desireable characteristics is a long shot gamble or pipe dream. It should only be undertaken by breeders experienced in pup selection who have money to spare, and an understanding that there remains only a very small chance that their prospect will be a breeder. If your breeding is motivated solely to produce numbers I would suggest poultry or swine as they have been well developed to their purpose, and will be appreciated regardless of quality. Best Wishes, Jonah

by Oskar1 on 06 May 2007 - 14:05

Howdy, Jonah, i could not have it said any better ....i clapp my hands to you. I assume all this takes place in the US ? Garantie this and garantie that.... peopel are really something. For crying out loud, every halfway decent breeder trys to have stable and sound pups, at least i do. Countless hours spend to determen which stud to use to improve certain things and to have healthy little pups. No matter how much care goes into that, nature will take its course. All we can do is increasing the chances by selective breeding. My Grandfather was a also a breeder and he used to say : PUT THE BEST TOGETHER AND HOPE FOR THE BEST ! That this male is sterile is indeed sad, but sorry, s**t happens. To blame a breeder for that is so out of whack, unreal. Regards Ulli Dresbach

by animules on 06 May 2007 - 15:05

Ulli and Jonah, great input and comments.

by Maybelline on 06 May 2007 - 15:05

Hannah, How long have you had german shepherds? Have you bred a litter before?

by Cesna on 13 May 2007 - 05:05

This male was sold to 'Hannah' as a companion, but also as a breeding prospect over 18 months ago. The sale was also with the understanding that the dog would be in a forever home, simply because the first owner (who had purchased the dog at 10 weeks old) had suffered a fatal stroke, we boarded the dog for 2 months while owners family decided what to do and eventually the family asked that we help find the dog a wonderful home where he would be happy for the rest of his life...

We did our research by talking with numerous reproductive specialists and veterinarians upon receiving the news that the dog was deemed sterile, passed this information on to Hannah and made very valuable suggestions in order to help Hannah find answers, (based on one collection, that to our understanding was done by a friend and not a licensed/practicing veterinarian)

Although the dog was sold with no guarantees, we did offer a very nice replacement puppy, as well as paying for the shipping of the replacement puppy. All 'Hannah' had to do was ship this male back to either us or the co-breeder of the litter and everything would have been suffice.... Hannah has refused all of our offers....

It is certainly a 'Seller Beware' situation.... Sometimes it is not the breeder/owner...it is the buyers of the dogs, no matter what the situation or how carefully people are screened, that make the situation a lot harder than it really has to be... These people are usually the most vocal and it fills these boards with postings as such...

by eichenluft on 13 May 2007 - 07:05

This is why I sell my puppies on limited registrations - selling a pup as a stud dog, then getting bashed because he supposedly isn't fertile, stated by a know-nothing backyard "breeder" who collected/tested him herself/friends - with only prelims, no working titles or any proof that he is breedworthy in the first place? Yikes. Hannah - did you know that the first collection from a dog who has not been collected/bred before is often "not fertile"? Betcha didn't know that. Now you do. If you want to breed your pet dog, take him to a repro vet who knows what they are doing, first step. Stop bashing breeders who made the mistake of selling you a dog with full breeding rights, second - third, how about thinking again about breeding any of your non-OFA'd, non-proven, non-working dogs? That would be better for the breed if not for your wallet.

molly

by allaboutthedawgs on 13 May 2007 - 18:05

"I should of got him tested before I bought him."

"The dog was bought for breeding and I should of had him tested. My fault. hannah"

And, yet, this insight didn't stop you from posting a thread blaming the breeder. One would think this knowledge would prompt you to title this thread, "Please learn from the mistake I made because I was blinded by stupidity and greed at the expense of a noble and blameless animal". Suck it up, grow up and own it.

"It is sad this happened to such a beautiful dog and I never blamed anyone"

"The kennel knew he was for breeding so now I have a $2500 pet"

And what are the bids on this low quality and unconvincing piece of bullshit? Going once....goning twice.....

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