Elbow dysplasia UK - Page 2

No idea, HC is on the KC/BVA Schedule for GSD; I suppose it is a bit like ED, if you have never tested for it, you will not know if it is there?

Elbow dysplasia UK
by svbc1 on 29 July 2009 - 15:07

svbc1

I have never ever seen hereditary cateracts in GSDs , I have seen quite a lot of Pannus from non related and related lines, so is there a test for Pannus ?.

I had a GSD born in 1992 with HC, at the time they were looking at removing the test for this but Brian Leonard (KC chairman at the time) supported me in the claim from the breeder and the test was kept on the list.

There were a few around in the 70's but is was hushed up like a lot of problems people dont like disclosing what is in their lines. This particular dog was linbred to a dog that I later found out with help that was known for producing HC back in the 70's, like a lot of conditions it can miss several generations and crop up when least expecting.
No you cant see, accept the obvious even in strong light the pupils are perminately dilated, the only way to see is have the dog sat near a doorway in a darkened room and have a strong light source behind, this dog was diagnosed by an Ophthalmologist.  ?sp.

Humm..I would stay away from that breeder!!  This is exactly why  the problem pass from generation to generation and the reason is simple..lots of dogs with DJD don't limp until they are 10 or 11..So those breeders just say that it is not a problem..Well it is a BIG problem.  I can see that they are not more concern about it in UK just like here in America.

Hemophilia we don't hear a lot around here..I know in Germany they started to be concern with the Wienerau line (Canto if i'm not mistaken).  In Am. S/L GSD it doesn't seem to be happening..never heard of one case in 20 years..

Pannus is a very challenging thing to get rid of because you can't see it before 5 or 6 years old sometimes so the dog already bred a couple of times..I don't think you can test it until it's there..Fortunatly you can contro it with cortisone drop..

Like I said only normal to normal dogs should be bred..Elbow dysplasia is not a fun problem to deal with..We should not encourage breeders who just don't care about it..JMO

Julie

CSENCE.     I have just looked at the Jaquenetta website and they have a good list for all the dogs that have been elbow scored, (assuming this is an accurate list. ), it would be better if their Sire and Dam's scores were listed on there as well.    I was surprised to see so many dogs had been scored and more surprised when I looked up the K.C.hip scores that quite a few of the dogs with good hip scores had got bad elbows !. This is a fair indication that elbow scoring is very necessary !.  As Jamessie51 said, why not do elbows at the same time as the hips , that makes sense to me.  If breeders are not submitting scores it should be made compulsary that when the vets do them they have to submit them to the BVA ,  don't suppose that would happen but good if it did.

I have been looking around and see that even some of the top kennels,are not doing both tests hips -elbows on there dogs,or are they?With it not beign compulsary they can choose just to send the hip score and not send the elbows and still breed from that dog.