Breeding using artificial insemination. - Page 2

What she said.

We were originally supposed to do fresh chilled semen with the stud I chose (he is in ID, we are in PA). His collection was poor. Had to rush frozen...and the thaw was still poor :( (40%)

Is all this intervention a slippery slope to.....??

Bull dog breeders here now do not even consider natural conception or birth cos it most likely will kill sire and dam both.

Food for thought (not trying to be rude). If a female will not stand naturally, I would rethink whether I should even be breeding her or not. I know I wouldn't even consider it if the female wont stand.

With that said I have used AI chilled with no problem shipped from Western Canada to the Eastern USA. This was with a bitch that has bred naturally in the past though...

A first time female I would prefer an experienced stud and a first time stud an experienced bitch, this way there's less likely to be problems and at least one or the other is a proven producer.

Not sure what your doubts are but for a first time mating I would be going to the stud to make sure it happens, if not I would just learn from my experience and move on with life. Make sure you don't leave until her progesterone is over 2.5, some bitches will drop when traveling, but 2.5 is kind of like the point of no return if she's already ovulated. If you still choose to do at I I would have chilled fresh done. No reason to do frozen if the male is alive and well.

As for frozen I have a friend that uses only frozen with her Labradors and has never missed. She actually offers her services to the public and also specializes in freezing embryos, embryo transfers/implants, semen storage, collection and more. She's an amazing person/farmer. EXPERIENCE makes all the difference in the world and I'd want to know how often the vet does frozen and their success rate, same with chilled, I want to know their stats!

 

Colorado to San Diego, sweet submissive female who for some reason has been attacked recently by her best friend female GSD and overly loved by grown pups who love her a bit too eagerly. Great at raising the other females pups. afraid she will roll over or just sit down. Fertility clinic nearby and airline tickets are mileage plus. Son will drive for a meet and greet. Hopefully she will fall in love! What are the odds here?

Is it vital to the breed that this gal must be impregnated?

Sounds like she was "attacked" because of hormones, all sorts of friendships are severed and fights erupt when bitches are in heat. Rolling over and sitting down isn't really an issue if you just loop your arm under her abdomen. Anytime our studs are used for outside service the female is held by the owner just as described, nobody gets hurt (the male) and the goods are delivered.

If she's that submissive and affected that badly by a dog fight I wouldn't breed her, just my 2 cents. She lacks strong character to recover and obviously can't overcome what had happened. She might be better off being an in house nanny for pups you raise or have, but not a mother.

FWIW my post just gave my own experience, not condoning breeding this bitch (no idea who she is, pedigree, titles, etc). I don't really call my dog a "stud dog" in that I don't campaign or advertise him as such but I've let a few people use him. He is Koer'd, titled (in SchH and has about 30 *other* titles), health certs even beyond just hips and elbows. I don't take breeding lightly. I agree that dogs who will not stand for breeding should not be bred - males that show no interest in females that are flagging, females that literally want to kill a stud even when they are in standing heat (I'm OK with nasty females who are not actually ready to breed), etc.

vk4gsd, it's not a slippery slope for me. My breeding dog has produced litters both with live cover and AI. I know he will stand. A friend of mine used him to help her gauge how far her female was in her heat cycle (my male's level of interest and persistence to breed obviously increases when the female is actually in standing heat). I would personally not breed any animal that was completely incapable of breeding naturally because of physical limitations or bad temperament (too aggressive, too fearful, completely uncooperative). My male's first successful breeding was live cover, two ties with a maiden bitch no less and produced 12 puppies (my current competition dog is from this litter). For proven animals, AI is a great option when someone can't physically move their dog 2400 miles across the country for a natural breeding. The successful AI's I've done with my male have all been with bitches that have already been proven/bred and the breeders are looking for something outside their own kennel or limited geographic area.

  vtgsd.

 

BTW folks -  something else in this thred I find interesting

and not a little disturbing is the apparent wash-out rate of

AI.   From what people here are saying, the failures of

frozen, particularly, seem high, considering how long the

technology has been available.  While I know it is nowhere

near 100% certain pregnancy will ensue from any sort of

AI in any species (including humans), I had thought it was

certainly these days more successful than if ^^^ posts are

believed.  Is this something specific to canines ?  Are dog

owners getting cheated ?

hundmutter, the dog people are getting cheated due to lack of experience. My farmer friend has a 100% success rate with frozen and does it often for herself and others, she freezes her own, thaws her own and has her own lab in her barn from progesterone testing! I believe she used a stud from CA that was frozen last year and she thawed and used that and ended up with a big healthy litter too!

VKGSDs I also don't actively "stud out" our dogs either, but for a handful of worthy dogs and people ;) They're my dogs, not just "breeding dogs". I didn't want it to sound that way :-)