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by duke1965 on 26 February 2016 - 14:02
let me ake clear im not trashing the dogs on those peds as producers, that goes for any dog in the world
by hntrjmpr434 on 26 February 2016 - 18:02
Thanks for the clarification, as I thought Icer owned both sire and dam.
Was still unimpressed by video of one of his pups.
No titles doesn't bother me, but no videos of working does.
I have a female out of 2 IPO3 dogs, sire is hugely well known, all dogs behind her at least IPO1, and she has NO drive.
Pedigree isn't enough to determine workability.
by gsdstudent on 26 February 2016 - 18:02
by susie on 26 February 2016 - 19:02
A pedigree loaded with a lot of famous 2./3./4./5. generation ancestors is interesting - in case the pup ends up as a good dog it´s because of the "famous" ancestors - in case it doesn´t it´s because of any unknown great grand dam...
Pedigrees are only able to show a tendency, but mom and dad are able to show you a way better tendency.
Duke is spot on, good dogs do produce mediocre dogs, too - in case mom and dad are mediocre, the chance to get a mediocre pup will be good...
What about your female? Are you able to separate the two of them, in case she will be jealous, and start to suppress or even harm the pup?
by Mithuna on 26 February 2016 - 20:02
by hntrjmpr434 on 26 February 2016 - 20:02
by vk4gsd on 26 February 2016 - 20:02
Famous ancestor syndrome - I made that up, keeps puppy mills in business.
by Hundmutter on 26 February 2016 - 23:02
about being able to separate them if they don't get
on (and two of opp.sexes OUGHT to get on okay
anyway, in the right ownership)...
Sorry Mithuna, you lost any sympathy you might have
had from me as regards training GSDs when you told
us your bitch has to have 2 or 3 kinds of collar on her
neck to stop her taking you for a walk. Guess I am
just spoilt by having had years of my dog walking every-
where calmly at my side, on just one ordinary flat collar;
it continues to sound as though your bitch - and you - are
a liability on the streets of NYC.
by Koots on 27 February 2016 - 00:02
My advice would be to get the proper training and control/obedience on your first dog before thinking about getting another dog. At least that way you may have one well-trained dog, instead of 2 half-trained ones, lol.
From my limited knowledge of lines, you may be biting off more than you can chew if you get this pup, before you figure out how to get better control/obedience from your girl.
by bubbabooboo on 27 February 2016 - 01:02
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