Initiation - Page 2

First off - glad to hear that you were not seriously injured and that you're healing up well.

Are tazer-type devices legal to carry in your jurisdiction, Kinolog? If so, then carrying one to protect yourself/dog is a good idea, as Nans says. Unfortunately, where I live, only the police are allowed to use an electric stun device.

Sorry, I called it a Taser/ it is really called a stungun; but 9.000.000 volts; will hopefully stop any dog or human; thank god we have not had to use it yet on a dog, don't want to but will if necessary. Just to clear that up, wanted something legal and YOU will be the one to go to jail if you shoot someone. That is what we were told by my retired marine neighbor, that is why we do not carry; I wanted to though, hubs did not. So the stun gun is what we have along with Bear spray, both bought online, both I believe from Amazon. Nan

I did the research on what is legal to carry in my area and I get a lot of conflicting info. A lot of things are "illegal" if it looks like you are carrying it as a weapon. I have had a pistol permit for about 30 yrs and have a handgun. The area whete I live is heavily populated so I was told I would be charged with illegal discharge. I was also told if I hurt the other dog I would be in more trouble.

There is something screwy going on because I was given a few stories about the pitbull owner claiming my dog bit him during the attack on me. Then a cop told me that he got bitten by my dog on another day when I asked for details. Then AC finally told me the owner never said my dog bit him and I should drop this before both my dogs are impounded.

Yeah. I know. WTF???!!!???

That sounds about right; just protect yourself when needed; that is all you can do. Try to carry your phone that might be able to get pics if needed, that is if you have a free hand; JHC, our laws stink. No matter what you do you are going to be in the wrong, particularly if you are carrying a gun, permit or no permit. Pretty sad state of affairs. Nan

Welcome to Communist Liberal North East,where the ''Criminals'' have more rights than honest obeying law citizens. I am so happy i left it and I can't described how happy I am in Texas. I don't have to put up with those Communist bastards any more.

As you say, "a lot of things are illegal if it looks like
you are carrying them as a weapon"; so no baseball
bats or tyre irons either. Not even a can of Mace or
equivalent, if you want to make sure you look squeaky
clean ! I say this especially if it has become the case
that anyone is claiming that YOUR dog is the one using
its teeth / not under proper control. Could become very
hazardous for you... Wishing you the best of luck with a
horrible situation; as Nan says, your phone camera is
your friend, as are any independent witnesses you can
get.

As an aside about Communists, it was shitty living under the thumb of these people but the one thing they did not put up with was criminals. No bleeding hearts for them. My mother's family has more trouble now because there is very little serious law enforcement, and some cops are worse than the criminals. But some things have not changed. You still have a lot of bribery. It's not enough to pay someone to do their job. They want something under the table as well. In the old days people had money but you had to stand in line for food. Now you can buy almost anything but most people don't have decent jobs or good pay.

What does that sound like?

Hi:

I'm glad that you and your dog escaped the situation with minor injuries all things considered.

I have only been involved in two really serious dog bite situations in 26 years of training dogs. First, I must say that I am visually impaired. I have almost no usable vision.

The first incident was when a Pit Bull attacked my owner-trained guide dog at an outdoor festival. We were just walking by, minding our own business and the dog jumped out from under a table and grabbed my dog around the throat. The second incident, same guide dog, was when I had tied my dog up to the locked door of the car while I was talking with some friends at our protection club and some idiot didn't have his dog on a leash and he attacked my guide dog. It was a ninety pound untrained GSD against my 106 pound Anatolian Shepherd.

I always carry undiluted white vinegar in a spray bottle of some sort when I am walking or training dogs. Most dogs, even high drive dogs such as the police and protection dogs I train, do not like the taste or the smell. So, I went to spray the GSD and he bit me as I sprayed him and got between him and my guide dog. I presented my arm to him, knowing I was going to get bit and I was bit five times. I still have nerve damage in that arm. Mind you, I know that it was a stupid thing to do, but all I could think of was protection my best friend.

The only other really bad incident was a Doberman who ate my Chihuahua so badly that he caused a broken shoulder, a collapsed lung, broken ribs and "signs of strangulation" according to the vet. Vinegar got that dobe to let go when sticking my fingers in his eyes and grabbing him by the testicles didn't work.

One last thing. I live in TX, but I am from Israel. I can't say I like it here at all. Where I live, things are either over-regulated or not regulated enough. There doesn't seem to be any middle ground.