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bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 30 December 2014 - 01:12

Wolf puppies eat raw bones and they have weaker jaws than a GSD.  What about foxes and fox kits who also eat raw bones ??  Coyotes are no stronger nor do they have a stronger set of teeth but they also eat raw bones.  I have fed raw chicken, beef and pork with bones to 8 week old GSD puppies with no problems.  A full grown GSD can crush chicken bones easily.  Likewise a full grown GSD can crush rib bones be they beef or pork.  Larger bones such as femur bones from cows take more gnawing and work but they can be eaten raw.  Cooked beef bones are much harder than cooked chicken bones.  I have raised over 60 GSD and fed raw chicken to nearly all of them and never had a problem with my dogs eating raw bones.  Cooked bones that have been heated (fried, baked, deep fried ) but not broken down such as with pressure cooking or boiling to softened state will harm a dog or probably a wolf as well because they splinter .. but wolves don't get much access to cooked bones.  I have taken a hammer to raw chicken bones versus cooked bones and the cooked bones do splinter.


by vk4gsd on 30 December 2014 - 01:12

i would advise anyone to take some cooked bones or even long time sun dried bones and do what bubba said, hit them with a hammer, they are very strong and sharp needles, no scientific paper required to know the risk of that to aa dog, in fact it would be unethical to do such an obvious and dangerous experiment.

 

boiling young chicken bones is different.

 

the bolded parts are some of the worst advice/comment i have seen on the internet.

 

"my dog scarf down some chicken wing bones she found in the park. ....

I've also had my dogs get into my garbage numerous times over the years, or scarf chicken drumstick bones off my plate. Turkey bones, chicken bones...doesn't matter. Maybe a bit of constipation if they get too much at one time, but otherwise they come out the other end just fine.

I think the cooked bones are dangerous/raw bones are safe mantra is a bunch of B.S.

Did early man or primitive societies give one fig over which type of bone they fed their dogs?"


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 30 December 2014 - 03:12

You know, being a scientific type, I'd LOVE to see those 'scientific' studies that prove raw bones are safe and cooked bones dangerous.

Anecdotal evidence, which is all anyone has ever been able to offer me on the subject just doesn't fly with the scientific community.

And what VK has quoted above from me is also anecdotal evidence, so, again, not concrete proof.

I don't deliberately give my dogs bones of any type, but during 30 some years of dog ownership, there's been a few 'accidents', and no harm has been done.

Here's some more anecdotes. When I was a kid, most of my aunts and uncles were farmers. They all had dogs, mainly collie/shepherd mixes. The dogs got the scraps from the table, and that INCLUDED whatever sort of cooked bones were in the meat. (NOT chicken bones, though. Back in those days, everyone knew they were bad.) Roll eyes   

I don't remember any of these dogs dying as a result, and many of them lived long, healthy lives. Accidents due to being hit by machinery, cars or other farm animals were the most common causes of premature death.


Jyl

by Jyl on 30 December 2014 - 04:12

Merrick dog food has the same thing.... when you open the can their are whole baby chicken wings in the can. The can is called Wing-a-ling...


by vk4gsd on 30 December 2014 - 05:12

"You know, being a scientific type, I'd LOVE to see those 'scientific' studies that prove raw bones are safe and cooked bones dangerous."

 

what scientifc studies, i never said there were any, to be worthy of scientific study a question has to be a bit less than obvious. like bubba said, do this yourself, get some dry cooked bones hit them with a hammer and see if you don't form shards of hard bone with needle tips.

 

do you want me to make a frikkin you tube video for you to follow step by step. now go pick up a shard and contemplate how that would work thru yr throat and digestive system without putting yrself or anything with a digestive tract at great risk.

 

you don't have to make an epic thread of excuses, just concede yr comment  was idiotic and potentially life threatening to be carelessly puttin on a public forum.

 

not wasting another comment on this idiocy good-bye.


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 30 December 2014 - 14:12

Vk, you've obviously never cut yourself on a broken chicken bone while deboning raw chicken, nor do you have the slightest understanding of the scientific method, which involves far more than bashing bones to bits with a hammer!  Roll eyes 

 






 


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