Dna test can be proved from grandfather - Page 2

@suzie, MMI, Geneseek, Neogen and GeneRatio are the only games in town for dog DNA parentage tests  (with Geneek, MMI and Neogen all being one company now through aquisitions AND they own nearly all the patents as well).  I don't know of any other company that will offer such a service to an individual, willing to pay, off the street, DNA samples or not.  Do you know of any?

The original poster doesn´t seem to live in the States. There may be other choices. He simply needs to google and ask.

Every company I named is international and provide parentage DNA services for breed clubs all over the world.  The only one that is separate from MMI, Geneseek and Neogen, is GeneRatio.  They use blood samples instead of cheek swabs and have a contract with the SV. 

Like GMO seeds, the dog DNA parentage market has been taken over by big players, the current patents and aquisitions severly limit the use of the testing process and developed technology outside of approved circles. 

I really never cared about this question, cause within SV it´s all about the parents, not the grandparents. But I still think  as soon as enough money is involved some DNA service ( maybe even a private human service ) might be willing to do the job ( as I stated before - the poster needs to have access to original samples, not officially stored ones ).
- a guess only - but it´s worth a try

@suzie, I understood what you meant, about someone providing their own samples, and it doesn't matter to the labs.  My guess is that they have signed agreements with the various breed clubs prohibiting them from doing ANY Genealogical DNA tests outside of the contracted protocol for registration with the breed clubs. Also the reason I mentioned the SV affiliated labs earlier, was to point out that there are FEW independent labs out there right now.  All the biggest ones got bought out by Neogen and they own patents on most of practical processing methods a given lab can use.  I do agree with you, there is likely a market for this kind of service, BUT from what I have seen, none of the existing players want to enter it, even if customers are willing to pay for it.  Also, the way I understand it, the other labs that are doing genetic health tests are not geared up for Genealogical DNA tests, so can not do it if requested. 

The playing field is not open and appears to not be a free market at work here either.

I'll give a realistic sample of scenarios for you to ponder (note, I have received official answers from all the labs on these topics):

-Can an individual submit a DNA sample directly to a lab without tying it to a specific breed club?

-Can an individuals directly submit multiple DNA samples to a lab and have the lab run genealogy tests on those submitted samples?

-Can the results of any given DNA test or genealogy test be returned to a customer directly, without it first passing through a breed club?

-Can a vet work independently with any of the established DNA labs submitting samples for genealogy tests, with mixed breeds or rescue dogs that have a known sire and dam and/or submit thier own sire and dam DNA samples to be tested against the offsprings?

I prefer to work (all my dogs and horses) with : http://www.laboklin.de/pages/php/news.php?lang=en

In Europe and:  http://waddl.vetmed.wsu.edu/open-user-guide/molecular-diagnostics , in US.

I make DNA profile of my each dog for myself,even if it was made before and already at DV - "Dobermann Verein"(analog SV)stud book in Germany.

Hope will help a bit..

Regards,

Sofia.

@Udo, thanks for providing some real examples.  I did not know that Laboklin exisited.  I also did not know Washington State University Animal Disease Diagnostic Lab would do independent DNA lineage tests for individuals, I thought they would only do that for herdetiary diseases.  UC Davis can do DNA as well, but I'm not sure anyone off the street can just make a submission for lineage testing, I thought the public could only do that for herdetiary diseases here as well.