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by gck on 23 September 2014 - 16:09

If you look at the "New Name", it has all the correct words, "German Shepherd Dog Club of America - Working Dog Association".  They are just in the wrong order.  Personally, I think this is either a "translation/word-order problem" or a "formatting" problem where "Club of America" got detached from "German Shepherd Dog".  I don't think that anything sinister is afoot.  But it sure speaks poorly for legally trained proof-reading skills!  Both by WUSV and the WDA!

 


momosgarage

by momosgarage on 23 September 2014 - 16:09

I don't know why everyone is getting worked up about the original question because its a valid thing to ask.  For those that don't know, it does matter, because WDA's previous 990 tax forms and EIN #25-1620274, are tied to the name "GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG CLUB OF AMERICA - WORKING DOG ASSOCIATION".  They can certainly change it or create a new non-profit if they wish, but you can't simply just tranfer exisiting members and fincances over, without registering a new one with the IRS.  If a name change has occured with the IRS, it would be searchable now and it is not, so we have to assume that the WDA name has not been officially changed with the existing EIN.  This also doesn't even begin to address the issues they will encounter, if, they decide to become a for-profit.

WDA form 990 from 2012:

http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990_pdf_archive/251/251620274/251620274_201212_990O.pdf

They will also need to update thier new organization name and re-sign the "Convention on Cooperation", which is currently, automatically renewed, every 5 years.
http://gsdca.org/images/Convention_on_Cooperation9-11-11.pdf

This is the imporant phrase in the recent WUSV letter:

3. In diesem Zusammcnhang akzeptiert und anerkennt die WUSV die WDA als beauftragte Partnerorganisation.   However, I do not see the WDA listed on the WUSV website yet, as a partner, independent of the GSDCA:

http://www.wusv.org/nordamerika/vereinigte-staaten-von-amerika/

 

 

 

 

 

 


by zdog on 23 September 2014 - 16:09

people are worked up?  hmmm

anyway, I don't know why someone, anyone, would come to a dog forum looking for a legal opinion.  I still think talking to a lawyer so you can prove your damages in the state where the laws are applicable would be a better option.  

Unless of course you're not really looking for a legal opinion, but have a completely separate agenda.


momosgarage

by momosgarage on 23 September 2014 - 17:09

I wouldn't say "damages", nor "lawsuit" in this context, but it does raise some questions about WDA's next steps.  Does it include changing the name of the organization?  Moving from non-profit to for-profit status?  What existing agreements will be updated under the new name?  What agreements become invalid, due to a possible name change? 

One that comes to mind is the acceptance of scorebooks, between the GSDCA, USCA and the WDA.  Currently WDA scorebooks are required to be accepted, by all WUSV partner clubs, under the name "GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG CLUB OF AMERICA - WORKING DOG ASSOCIATION", not the "German Shepherd Dog - Working Club of America Dog Association"

Or is it just a typo?


by Richard Medlen on 23 September 2014 - 17:09

Zdog and Sitasmom:

Just maybe, you folks should be more concerned about the erroneous club name than anyone else who is commenting on this matter. Even if it is nothing more that a translation error, the  President of The German Shepherd Dog Club of America-Working Dog Association, reportedly a trained and practicing attorney, apparently signed it quite possibly with the awareness that the name was wrong.. 

Personally, I could care less but, admittedly, I do think the matter is laughable that a mistake so clearly obvious could not be seen prior the signatures being affixed.


susie

by susie on 23 September 2014 - 17:09

This is no translation error ( no translation happened ), it´s a ridiculous mistake made by someone who had to write this text.
For people outside of the US it´s difficult to distinguish all the clubs and their names... Shades Smile

The most important phrase of all of this  is #6 : WUSV clearly says that they are willing to work with WDA even in case some of the above mentioned phrases may change.

 


by zdog on 23 September 2014 - 18:09

Why should I care more than anyone else?  I don't care what name someone has.  I don't care what org anybody belongs to.  If they want to show up and train or trial, let's do it.  I don't care what Dan Yee is or is reportedly trained in.  Stuff happens at all levels and i'm sure it's even happened to YOU.  

You're here claiming something nefarious is happening, get your lawyer and make it right.  Simple


by Bob McKown on 23 September 2014 - 20:09

Isn,t Nefarious Gru,s evil scientist inventor?


by Richard Medlen on 23 September 2014 - 22:09

Zdog:

Forgive me if I was wrong. I thought, given the leanings of your prior posts, that you were a GSDCA-WDA member or advocate. If you are a GSDCA-WDA  member you know more than I what you would expect from your President. If you aren't you are probably like me, you don't give a damn most likely. 


by hexe on 24 September 2014 - 01:09

Anyone who believes that Dan Yee did not observe the specifics of the organization's name in this document, and believes he wouldn't have insisted on it being changed if it was incorrect, isn't smart enough to train a dog, that's for sure.

When it comes to legal documents, NO change in word order, spelling, presence or lack thereof is without consequence--a contract can be voided on the basis of a single missing adjective or article. Why do you think laws very rarely specify that one party "must" do something or other, but instead use the term "shall' in its place? No, I'm not a lawyer, but I've been involved in composing more than a few official regulations, both state and federal, in the course of my job, and been thoroughly schooled on the point that the enforcibility of any legal document can turn on just one word. 

Regardless of anyone's opinion of Yee personally and/or professionally, I warrant he's fully aware of the significance of the reordering of the words that form the name of the organization of which he is currently president, especially given the fact that it's more likely than not that the litigation between WDA and the GSDCA is far from any resolution at this point. 

 

Edited to add:  Close, Bob, it's Dr. Nefario..  But he prefers to be called Gru's "gadget man", not his "evil scientist".






 


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