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mentayflor

by mentayflor on 28 August 2014 - 16:08

Hi Lanhua, I see you still continue offended by my previous post of killing of dogs in China. I ask you to forgive me for it. But if you send message about other issues we will not be able to discuss about this topic.

 I m very glad  you to share this petition, but I ask you to create a new post with this topic. Regards


Mindhunt

by Mindhunt on 28 August 2014 - 17:08

Abuse? Really? What kind of "kitty cat inbred" GSD's do you own that can't handle a harsh correction when needed?  Anytime I see someone justify "harsh correction" like what was displayed in the video, I wonder what that person needs to prove?

It's a police dog, not "Snuggles".   Of course it is not "Snuggles" but it is not a "tool" or "thing" like a side arm or baton.  K9s should not be treated the same as a "tool".  Unfortunately I have seen a K9 officer believe his gun was more important than his dog and it showed in the treatment of his dog.  He was not a K9 officer for long.

If you have to "hide" from the public how you are correcting your K9, then is the method you are using really that appropriate and effective?

I helped train K9s for over 10 years, most very driven and smart, NEVER was that kind of harsh correction that is shown in the video acceptable.  We had a saying - take the ego out - It is not a contest to see who is tougher, the K9 or the handler.  It is a mutually respectful working relationship, a bond built on trust and respect, not fear and abuse.  If a correction is needed, it is immediate, brief, firm, and still done with respect.

That officer did not appear to be trying to get anything out of the dog's mouth and I am not sure how smacking the dog with the end of the leash or hanging it is a proven method to make the dog spit out what it has (especially when the officer has his hand under the chin and is lifting the chin up). 


Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 28 August 2014 - 17:08

Like I said, this was all covered here once before as was the outcome of the department's investigation.  Here's the original thread: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/forum.read?mnr=790517-wtf-is-this-cop-an-abuser-or-am-i-missing-something


mentayflor

by mentayflor on 28 August 2014 - 18:08

Hi Keith, thanks for the thread. The news of this article happened in may, ".But Police Chief John Doughty says the officer will get additional training because his actions were outside his "normal routine and training." But the update fortunately is this "The officer in question is being placed on Administrative Leave immediately, pending a further investigation. He will have his canine removed from his control during this leave while the PD further investigates this matter"

Since english is not my language tell me please if I am wrong. Thank you!

Maria del Carmen


Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 28 August 2014 - 19:08

He was first placed on leave and then reinstated after the investigation and made to get more training.  He is back on the job ow with his dog.


mentayflor

by mentayflor on 28 August 2014 - 19:08

Oh, what a bad news!


by bzcz on 28 August 2014 - 19:08

Lots of noise from those who don't know anything.

The dog had a ball in his mouth for the person who said that they didn't see anything.  He was rewarded with the ball for a drug find.  And no, he doens't get to keep the ball, or go walk in a garden with it.  He has to out it at some point.

Yes both the cop and dog needed some training on the out, but the dog was actively refusing to obey the out command.  So a correction is in order.  It just needs to be cleaner and more appropriate to elicit the out that was being ignored.

There was no proving anything here.  THe handler escalated the pressure to out and made some bad choices.  Abuse is intent and there was no abuse or intent.

 


Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 28 August 2014 - 19:08

"Lots of noise from those who don't know anything."

Yep!


mentayflor

by mentayflor on 28 August 2014 - 19:08

"Lots of noise from those who don't know anything"

Keith, why do you think so?






 


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