Italian sired Import , now AKC CHAMPION !!! - Page 2

Richard,  it's Matt, and it would be nice if he would be titled and breed surveyed. 

But yep, he can show in the 24 and over class but I "believe" that limits him to an SG rating. 

This is a very significant development. I think there have only been 3 or 4 German German shepherds to complete their Championship. Jim Fiemereck, Liedo Kucksland, are the only two that come to mind. I think there are a couple others.

I can say from experience the GSDCA system does not cater to the European dog. In my quest for Championship we ran into three judges that judged dogs and many that,,, well to be honest, I'm not sure what their judging criteria was.

Posted above is a list of judges that have not shown a bias to the American style dog. They aparrantly have judged a dog for what it is in the class. Remember this list of judges and you can add three in Helen Gleason, Dr. Goldfarb, and Mr. Frederickson that are impartial. Please notice the list of judges includes some very influential people in the GSDCA. If you want to compete with your German dogs in this type of event. You chances of success can be enhanced by showing under these judges. Infodog.com has th eevents listed across the country where these judges are scheduled to judge. Just see where the events are, enter on line, pick up your number ringside and that's it, no big entry fee, no mass of paperwork that takes months to acquire, just an AKC number and a couple of bucks and the family can show their puppy for less than 40 bucks.

What could all this mean? This could be the beginning of what some GSD enthusiasts have been hoping for. Recognition, acceptance, at least not prejudice towards the European dog in the American events. So what? The GSDCA and the AKC have an extensive network of events. They all can be entered on line with Infodog.com. It's inexpensive and simple. The trend these judges set combined with the GSDCA inclusion of the SV services and recognition. You have the merging of everything in one organization the GSDCA.

What we have here with Kappo is hopefully the beginning of a trend.

Matt,

You are correct. This class can be a stepping stone for those interested in this type of event to get involved and give it a try. Success can lead to the enthusiasm that gets people involved.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=612256-can-ch-tattoo-vom-team-zellwaldrand

Thi is the sire of my puppy.

He was imported from Serbia at 2 years of age. He is a  C.K.C champion.

More and more German show lines are winning at the C,K,C . shows,under  C.K.C. judges.

  Have a nice day.

  John

Ch Newumann's Jim SchH 3

A little AKC trivia - Godlfarb has had at least 2 titled imports that earned AKC CH's as has Dan Smith. As far as I know those dogs were all titled in Germany before or after they were imported to the US, none were American bred as is Kappo. Smith's Jim had a Sch 1 and/or 2 when Dan bought him and he went back to German for his Sch 3. Jim was the  Canadian Sieger and the first German bred dog to earned the GSDCA ROM designation for number of AKC CH progeny produced. That record will probably stand for a very long time.

I don't know much about Neuman's Jim Was he Am Bred, did he have any AKC group placings? Has any dog with a 100% German pedigree other than Kappo? If so, I don't know who it would have been. Certainly he has to be the first to place in the herding group from the classes and maybe the first Am Bred from German parents?

Helen never campaigned any of her 100% German dogs for AKC CH titles. Most were V rated, one at the German Sieger one at the Austrian Sieger. She titled most of her German dogs in Sch/IPO and many had advanced OB titles. One was HGH trained but never trialed due some unforeseen circumstances. However she did breed the only IPO3, KKL1 American Grand Champion, Nocturne's Navigator. As far as I know Gator holds the breed record for being the only V rated American bred CH with an IPO3 and a KKL1. He was sired by an ASL out of V rated Sch 3 female. Helen has trained all her titled dogs herself and has bred a number of them too.

BTW isn't the GSDCA requiring dogs must be titled in the US or is that only for their awards, not a sieger entry?

Very nice! Congrats!

That is not an easy thing to do!

Neumann's Jim was a DDR import back in the late 80's.       Spezialblut imported him.

Another of the era was Sam Schaafgarten, also SCH and AKC CH.    Trommel imported him.

I believe Don Kille handled both.

I hope you get the opportunity to also work-title him, and join the ranks of the few!

It WOULD be nice to see more balanced dogs have a chance at being put up in more AKC venues...  I hope we see more of this in the future!

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=7770-sam-vom-schaafgarten

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=18244-neumanns-jim

GSDCA as a member of the WUSV HAS to accept all WUSV recognized titles regardless of country of origin.

I.E.  all IPO titles and such.

And yet with these dogs from that era getting their AKC championships, nothing changed and these dogs had negligible affect on the ASL.

But today it will all be different, because.........  I won't hold my breath.