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by Prager on 09 June 2014 - 15:06
Hired Dog You are buying a work in a dog. You do it I do it. But not everybody does that. Do you believe that there are other reasons people buy a dog for and do not care much about the work he can perform. You say market dictates the price. Indeed that is truth. But what market are you talking about? In some markets you would be an idiot to pay as much as you do and in some you could not be able to get the dead dog with 3 legs for the prices you are willing to pay. "Market" is determined by psychology of the buyer, geography, needs of the buyer, what price makes him happy, situation of the buyer, the purpose the dog is going to serve,( and that is not always work), ...
Have you ever heard the quote of Richard lll: "Kingdom for a horse!"? Was Richard lll an "idiot" ? No I do not think so. Even so the example is little extreme it became famous ONLY because it illustrates how a values of things are relative to our needs.
Prager Hans

by Hired Dog on 09 June 2014 - 15:06
For sure people buy dogs for reasons other then work Hans, the pet industry is a several BILLION dollar a year enterprise and very little on that is spent on working dogs.
The market I speak of depends on what you are getting the dog for...Disney market, where the latest movie involved a dog..some star was on TV with a certain breed/mutt, that is another market and the list goes on and on. Markets are all based on popularity and prices follow.
Following the events of Sept 11, every agency on the planet wanted dogs to train for bomb detection, green dogs that were selling for 1K were all of a sudden hot commodities selling for 3 and 4 times that and the market is now starting to recover. Tens of thousands of dogs were bought and sold in the last 12 years because of that one incident.
Indeed, what I want in a dog is very different then what someone who is looking for a pet will want, however, logically speaking and using common sense, the prices dictated for some of these dogs depend greatly on how popular these dogs are at the moment.

by Prager on 09 June 2014 - 16:06
LOL So. we agree:) Cool!
Let me say this . Most of the very expensive dogs are bought 99% of the time by people so that they can then say at cocktail parties:" I have excellent dog! I paid $85000.oo for it!" That put them into limelight together with their , $200000.00 Ferrari parked right ght next to a Bentley and Rolls and classic Duesenberg, 9 houses in prime location with guest houses which will make my hose look like a back yard shed. One ion South France and one of those houses 20,000 sq ft must be obligatorily in Veil, CO or Jackson Hole, Wy and it has Olympic size pool and Jacuzzi and fireplace which must be stocked with fork lift, 2 kids in expensive private schools and their trophy wife (which one day will take it all from them. )
Are they idiots? From Buddhist's point of view - definitely. From Western and by the culture of their society point of view? No. They are to be admired there. And to them $85,000.00 dog is well worth such expense. After all to them it is chomp change.
Prager Hans

by Hired Dog on 09 June 2014 - 16:06
Hans, being a Buddhist for most of my life, ehh, I try to be as nice as I can, however, I am still a human, but, this is about dogs, so, I will tell you this.
I know of someone who sells very expensive PPD, 35K and up, this person sold a 40K dog to someone who has not seen the dog yet. The dog lives outside in a kennel and his house help takes care of it. He has his grounds keeper bring it out when he has company and wants to show off.
Someone who saw the dog contacted the trainer who sold it and asked him if he can have one too, but, at FIFTY thousand dollars because of course, he could not have a dog as cheap as his friend's and what would his wife say if he did not pay more for one..
by beetree on 09 June 2014 - 16:06
@Hired Dog
If there is such a thing as PDB "urban legend", then your story has got to be it. I hear some version of that ridiculous tale everytime this topic comes up. It just isn't like any one I know who is "wealthy". Maybe from some ignorant idiot who won the powerball lottery, but never from a self-made man.
IMHO

by Hired Dog on 09 June 2014 - 17:06

by Two Moons on 09 June 2014 - 17:06
There is no set price for a dog,it's up to the buyer what they are willing to spend for a given dog, and how motivated the seller is.
There is much variation yes, of course, that's because some are worth more, and some people have more money than sense.
Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay and nothing else matters.
by Blitzen on 09 June 2014 - 17:06
The most I ever heard of anyone paying for a GSD was just under a million. Was it Larus? I don't remember, maybe Sitasmom or Dog1 does.
I give retirement homes to older dogs now. They are generally free, already titled, and housebroken .

by Dog1 on 09 June 2014 - 18:06
Blitzen,
Perhaps the better discussion would be to discuss what makes a dog valuable or how to assess the value of a dog/puppy. There are many different angles to look at when determining value. I'm at unch now. Perhaps more later.
by Blitzen on 09 June 2014 - 19:06
I can't wait, Randy.
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