Amazing dog - Page 2

Hundmutter
It is more then that. Think about it for a minute. I am not saying that dog would or would not take the first real bit in a real situation, I do not know. But that dog did not pull the child over did not stay on one man while the other came in, there is several factors to this working. It really looks like a fun thing to do.

 

LOL I don't think "every IPO dog" can do that!  I know plenty of IPO dogs that can barely hold themselves together being asked to platz in front of ONE sleeve, screaming, leaking drive, frothing at the mouth.  Can't really speak to the quality of the dog or the training but at the very least, I like that this dog appears quite settled and clear-headed.

Nice Dog, Nice work.
 

Like mentioned, I like that the dog was calm until told to engage.   I would like to see the same routine if the sleeve was not so obvious.   Would the dog go to the same arm, even if the sleeve was covered?

That was good watching. And of course it's good training...not just IPO training. I'd like to see the dog go for the crotch. In a real situation it'd be more effective, both to the one bitten and as a deterrent for the other creep. In a real situation, those kinds being portrayed usually don't have much to spare to a dog bite.....

Yes, Paul, it´s a "fun" thing, not more, not less. nice to watch.
The dog learned to "down stay" in front of the helper ( I´m pretty sure the guy behind the camera is the father and the trainer, so no problem with the down stay...)
The helpers engaged within line length - no  "pulling" to expect in this case, the dog simply doesn´t care about the child behind him.
The dog learned to "out" - most of the dogs trained in a proper way don´t need a command for the "out".
Up to this point a "normal" IPO routine, they only teached the dog to "change" sleeves, no big deal, one or two days of training.
Once again, it´s a fun thing, and learned behavior.
VKGSD, I don´t know which kind of dogs you normally see, but in my area it´s no big deal.

Thanks Susie, my sentiments too.  Including the bit about
VKGSDs screaming, leaky, dogs - I never saw that in the
UK either.   Maybe if people here know they have a dog so
unsuited to IPO they just do not take them to training club ?

"VKGSDs creaming leaky dogs" - I can't stand dogs like that, they most certainly are not mine! I will and have sold them. One of my biggest complaints about IPO these days is that so many people want to see a dog so loaded he is on the verge of being out of control. I don't like watching an IPO routine where it looks like a 3 way struggle between the handler, dog, and helper, even if the dog does show a lot of power and aggression.  I personally like a dog that works in a calm, clear-headed manner. I don't need to see a dog panting and his eyes bugging out to think that dog has good drive. Just a personal preference. I like the video of Vicog de Valsory doing the basket guard, just standing there completely calm and nonchalant until the decoy crosses the line. I have a hard time finding dogs that have the threshold and secondary obedience I expect.  Whether the dog here is showing a learned behavior or not doesn't really matter to me especially with no other knowledge of the dog and the training.  Good dogs and good training are good dogs and good training whether we call it IPO or something different.  I do wish we could see the dog guard, not just bite sleeves that are offered.