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Loony

by Loony on 30 January 2014 - 02:01

I found this link interesting. Sorry, I don't know how to make it clickable from my phone.

http://www.angryvet.com/neutering-and-behavior/

EduCanine

by EduCanine on 30 January 2014 - 03:01

@ Jenn -- that's really smart of you to have a clause in your contract for NO spay/neuter until after 24 months! Great idea. It's the first time I've heard of that. KUDOS!

 I've lived with male dogs that were intact their whole lives and male dogs that were early neutered (less than a year old). Other than the intact dogs catching onto a female entering heat faster, I've found no consistent differences. The differences I did see could be more attributed to the individual dog, temperament, and training.  I can't speak much about females.

Loony

by Loony on 30 January 2014 - 06:01

Thank you all for the replies. I really feel like I've been force fed lies and misinformation by the mainstream animal authorities. I remember visiting Europe and noticing not only that most I saw there were intact, but also that they were allowed out in public more and were well behaved. I always figured it was more of an attitude and expectation thing, than an actual behavioral difference. This certainly gives me greater confidence in keeping the next dog I get whole.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 30 January 2014 - 09:01

Loony, I'll second what Educanine says about it being an 'individual'
thing.  I've worked with a kennel where there was more than one intact
male and their behaviour towards each other, and other dogs in public,
has been exemplary;  I've worked with a pack where all the males were
neutered from around 9 months old, and some of them have been fine,
some have been argumentative, some have continued to be interested
in bitches, some not.  We even got Alpha behaviour from one or two of
them.  Currently I live with one intact male (in the UK), and he goes out
into the streets and parks - but, while he is fine (if a little over enthusiastic !)
with bitches, he does get dominant-aggressive with most [not all] other
males, whether they be neutered or not.  So I have to be very observant,
and  exercise care and control at all times.

dragonfry

by dragonfry on 30 January 2014 - 15:01

Honestly i've not noticed a lot fo behavior differences in my own dogs. My first dog a white boxer, (with a lot of health problems form birth) was neutered at 8 months. Bacisally as soon as we could get him healthy enough to be neutered. After his pallet surgery, the discovery of his heart problem, his retained nut...... Nothing really to say about his behavior. He lifted his leg outside, sometimes mounted other dogs, but usually got mounted. Wasn't hyper, aggressive or very tall from the early neuter.
Now my male Am Bulldog kept his parts for life and was still low man on the totem pole at my house. All the females mounted him and reminded him he was not top dog. (Poor Lou)
He was not aggressive with other dogs, in fact he was very playful. Loved little dogs, well mannered, obedient. Pain in the ass to take for a walk because he had to mark everything he passed, even if he was out of urine he still had to lift that leg. Never peed in the house. He was sort of a big lazy dork.  He did sometims have swollen prostrait issues.

My current dog is female and i do plan to spay her, but not for a while yet. She's just 2.5 years old and i wnat to wait until she is 3 more 4 to spay her, but mostly because she keeps going into false pregancies and has had a bout of mastitus. So i worry about her health.
And in the past working as a groomer i've seen several female dogs with Pyos and a couple of males with testical cancer and prostrait problems.
I'm not for rushing in to fix puppies, but i think on average a later spay and neuter on a dog that is not ever worth breeding is fine to fix. I've not seen any health problems from fixing my females later in life.
Fry

ziegenfarm

by ziegenfarm on 30 January 2014 - 16:01

i've had dogs my entire life.  (60 yrs)  german shepherds for 32 yrs.  it has been my experience that a dog's character has far more impact on their behavior than whether or not they 
are spayed or neutered.  obedience is the key to keeping dogs under control.  obedience can be mastered intact or neutered.  i have only had a couple of males neutered for health reasons & saw virtually no difference in behavior.  same with females spayed for health reasons----no difference other than a tendency to gain weight.
pjp
 

Ryanhaus

by Ryanhaus on 30 January 2014 - 19:01

Here is a picture of my intact boys that get along just fine,
they are all obedienced trained and heavily socialized Shades Smile
Rollie on the left, Theo in the middle, and Oeht!

Rollie and Oeht have the same mom different sire, and Theo in the middle is Oeht's sire Wink Smile


Ryanhaus

by Ryanhaus on 30 January 2014 - 19:01

My gal Sam will be 11 yrs old in April, she is still intact, her mother Mira is 13 years old and was spayed 
at seven yrs, both are in perfect health, and get along fine Teeth Smile



Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 30 January 2014 - 19:01

Mirasmom,,Love that pic of the three boys!!,,

 

Loony

by Loony on 30 January 2014 - 21:01

Mira looks great!  And those boys are gorgeous!  Is the dog on the playground eqiupment closely related to Rollie?  They share a very similar expression.  I really like that expression, too.





 


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