Hips & Elbows, what do you think? - Page 2

Can you elaborate what the statemement "with alot of temperment" means? I'm trying to get a clear understanding on just exactly WHAT is correct German Shepherd temperment.

Kitkat, that's from a koer report, not SM's words. That's been translated. 

"lot of temperament" probably means NOT fearful, carries and presents herself  with confidence, moves well also...

WOW:  what a pretty girl.  I think her hips look pretty good.  Probably will tighten up in the next year or so;  elbows look good to me but I am not real confident in reading elbows.  Nan
 

I knew that those were not SM's words. That is why I asked. I really want a "clear understanding", as to what exactly is considered the correct temperament of a German Shepherd, and the fact that the judge says it, makes me that much more intrigued with the description.
Thanks nans, the dog SM posted looks like that is exactly how she presents herself.
Very nice dog SM. I hope you have lots of fun with her.

My only point was that it's a translation, and the real meaning is often lost, especially in reports like this, so asking SM what he meant by that isn't probably going to get us much closer to our answer. I had a German (dog person) friend translate what was meant by Capri's, because I knew the translation still wasn't exactly what the judge meant. My German neighbor translated it, but it was similar to this one- the gist of what the judge meant with regard to the dog's temperament wasn't really coming through in "dog terms." 

Yeah, imagine how a translator program or a non-dog person might translate our English phrases into another language...."that is a lot of dog" (can there be various amount of one dog?)...."that one has a lot of fight and hardness" (is she made of rock??)..."this dog is weak" (body? mind? like a tea?). Without the dog-appropriate context, adjectives etc. are taken literally and you can end up with some funky temperament descriptions.

LOL!! Yes, exactly!!!! That's what I meant, but I couldn't write it correctly. LOL LOL

It goes on and on...

'a lot of temperament' probably got translated from 'temperamentvoll' which, if used as an adjective, translates best to spirited, lively, full of live. if you get a superlative such as 'sehr' with it, it may mean as much as 'a handful.'  nerves usually get addressed separately and evaluated with descriptions such as 'belastbar' ('can handle pressure'), 'selbstbewusst' ('sure of him/herself'), 'sicheres Wesen' ('confident' in an all encompassing meaning probably comes closest). of course, context and evaluator matter which is why the koermeister is often listed with the evaluation.

Sorry SM, I am not trying to hijack this thread about hips and ellbows, but, while the door is open, let me put my foot in;
    I was sort of hoping maybe someone that was there to maybe witness the dog at the time of the rating, would know what the judge was referring to. 
    I think nans is pretty close, as I was not there, the dog does, as much as I can tell from just a pic, seem to fit the description.
    With so much crsp always talked about the showlines, when temperament is mentioned, I would like to know what they are referring to.
    I get lots of feedback on my pups where people say, and the temperament is just wonderful.....
just trying to determine if it means the same thing to everyone...that's all .

beboyou nailed it..........she is just that!   spirited, lively, full of life.

it was a show critique, not a breed survey. so only the most notable things are covered by the judge, its informal.