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by vk4gsd on 24 November 2013 - 20:11
self evident hippie talk, don't know why just feels right....moons - the hippie with guns.
by hexe on 24 November 2013 - 20:11
I dunno....seeing bears trained to dance, play a horn, hula-hoop...it always makes me sad. It's just not something bears do on their own.

by ggturner on 24 November 2013 - 20:11
Bee, I'm a penguin!! Haha!
Moons, I agree with you about training with positive reinforcement.
How about this for training?!
Moons, I agree with you about training with positive reinforcement.
How about this for training?!

by Two Moons on 24 November 2013 - 21:11
Freak, we called ourselves freaks, hippies were all together different.
by vk4gsd on 24 November 2013 - 21:11
FWIW i'm with hex on this one, sad that people don't find it sad at a fundamental level, instead they see it as entertainment - sick imo.
by vk4gsd on 24 November 2013 - 21:11
freak is a compliment for sure

by Two Moons on 24 November 2013 - 21:11
I think there are great differences between the bear in the video and circus animals..
As for natural, it's not natural for a dog to try to eat a human is it, a domestic animal?
Yeah I'd rather see a bear in the wilderness just being a bear, but the video doesn't make me sad for the bear, I doubt it's being abused as are so many pets these days.
A freak is a completely different animal than a hippie VK4, you would'nt know the difference because you where not there..LOL
Hippie was widely misunderstood here too so don't feel too bad.
As for natural, it's not natural for a dog to try to eat a human is it, a domestic animal?
Yeah I'd rather see a bear in the wilderness just being a bear, but the video doesn't make me sad for the bear, I doubt it's being abused as are so many pets these days.
A freak is a completely different animal than a hippie VK4, you would'nt know the difference because you where not there..LOL
Hippie was widely misunderstood here too so don't feel too bad.

by ggturner on 24 November 2013 - 21:11
Hexe and vk4, how do you feel about training dolphins, sea lions, etc for the military?

by Two Moons on 24 November 2013 - 21:11
Here we go....................................
by vk4gsd on 24 November 2013 - 21:11
not going to watch it as i want to sleep tonight - i will say that dogs for LEO and millitary i consider sacrifices for a greater good presumably, i just hope the agencies are up to date with humane methods of training and care and also have a nice exit plan for the dogs, i think this is mostly the case these days but as recent as Vietnam it was not, the dogs never came back they died kicking and screaming at the hands of a stranger on a stainless steel bench on foreign unfriendly soil, so personally i consider leo/millitary a special case.
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