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by susie on 16 November 2013 - 13:11
Future will show!
You tried the best, knowing the dam and knowing the sire, and you made your homework.
The rest is nature...
All the best for your puppies.
You tried the best, knowing the dam and knowing the sire, and you made your homework.
The rest is nature...
All the best for your puppies.

by Two Moons on 16 November 2013 - 13:11
I'm coming in kinda late but might I suggest what I think a few others suggested.
Know and understand the standards for a correct GSD, and work from the Dams side out.
Carefully study everything you produce and in ten or twenty years you may see an improvement if you have made the right choices.
Just keep in mind, not everyone has the gift to know what they are looking at to make those choices, and it takes a lot of time and effort, it's a full time job.
Ole Max did it quick, but keep in mind the breed has been refined ever since.
Also keep in mind the original purpose of the breed no longer exists in the real world.
What is left are adaptations and interpretations of the original breed, but the basic standards still apply, that's always the best place to start.
Allow nothing substandard to be bred.
Know and understand the standards for a correct GSD, and work from the Dams side out.
Carefully study everything you produce and in ten or twenty years you may see an improvement if you have made the right choices.
Just keep in mind, not everyone has the gift to know what they are looking at to make those choices, and it takes a lot of time and effort, it's a full time job.
Ole Max did it quick, but keep in mind the breed has been refined ever since.
Also keep in mind the original purpose of the breed no longer exists in the real world.
What is left are adaptations and interpretations of the original breed, but the basic standards still apply, that's always the best place to start.
Allow nothing substandard to be bred.

by CMills on 16 November 2013 - 18:11
Not all showlines have crappy temperments. Mine are all very sound in temperment, all were directly imported from Europe. I'd trust them wholly.

by Ryanhaus on 17 November 2013 - 19:11
Look at all the relatives in the pedigree of the sire and dam, study all for about 10 years or more in person and in pedigrees,
do they match up to the original German Shepherd Dog, see how that can be duplicated, and go from there :)
OR
Think about it, why would Europe give us their best GSD's, at this point in time, if you know the original standard of the breed,
then there should be plenty to work with just about any where in the world, the breed is so popular just breed to the guide lines
of the old standard and you can't go wrong ;)
This is a good link:
http://www.nsgsdc.com/breedhistory.shtml
do they match up to the original German Shepherd Dog, see how that can be duplicated, and go from there :)
OR
Think about it, why would Europe give us their best GSD's, at this point in time, if you know the original standard of the breed,
then there should be plenty to work with just about any where in the world, the breed is so popular just breed to the guide lines
of the old standard and you can't go wrong ;)
This is a good link:
http://www.nsgsdc.com/breedhistory.shtml

by Dawulf on 17 November 2013 - 21:11
Thanks for sharing that, Mirasmom.... good read!

by Bundishep on 17 November 2013 - 22:11
I would look for 2 parents V- rated working lines but if you insist on having at least one side showline only, then get a superhard working female,,, so as for males showlines doing this will give you a better choice to examine each showline male very carefully on who you match your working female up with.

by Chaz Reinhold on 17 November 2013 - 22:11
I would simply say, if you ask that question, you shouldn't be breeding. Not trying to be a Richard, but there is knowledge that needs to be gained before breeding. You should know the answer before sticking two dogs together.
by hexe on 18 November 2013 - 01:11
IMO, it doesn't matter which lines are on what side--find the bitch that you believe will be the very best foundation for your line possible, from strong maternal bloodline, and from there you will have a multitude of options when it comes to stud selection. It can be a strong show line bitch, or a strong working line bitch, as long as her mother was and produced strong females, and her mother's mother did likewise, and so on, and so on. Reputations may be built on stud dogs, but enduring bloodlines have females as their foundations.

by trixx on 21 November 2013 - 17:11
Jenni78 , how many pups did you get i was wondering if you had the pups yet.

by Jenni78 on 21 November 2013 - 17:11
8. She had them on 11-14, so they're a week old today!
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