World’s First 20” 4K Tablet Released by Panasonic - Page 2

"and here is a good reminded what evidence speaks"

what gibberish is this???

i could read no further.


ask moons about the moon LOL

here shtal you like gibberish and your main source is a convicted criminal you would prolly like this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hisq_Cc-d2g

He knows.

for philosophical integrity & consistency should not shtal hold the view that the earth is the centre of the universe, all this talk of kepler is just more picking the little bits that support his own twisted, narrow and feeble simplistic view while rejecting the whole that it is intrinsically a part of.

i wish i could be that dumb and self-serving.

No you don't.

VK4 wrote: for philosophical integrity & consistency should not shtal hold the view that the earth is the centre of the universe, all this talk of kepler is just more picking the little bits that support his own twisted, narrow and feeble simplistic view while rejecting the whole that it is intrinsically a part of.

i wish i could be that dumb and self-serving.



Some people say that there is a complete difference between faith and evidence, so let me remind you about it. Atheists / evolutionists always claim that they do have evidence and we creationist’s do not. (That is the end of it)
Atheist’s always say you have faith and I do not. Atheist always making an assertion there, you would say I don’t make an assertion but in other words you are telling what you believe which there for statement of faith anyway. And that is the problem I see with evolutionists or atheist, typically you come up with this idea or boldly proclaim assert, you say hey we don’t have faith we got evidence, that’s what people like you claim… And then you say Christian’s the once have Religion, have faith. You put kind of religion and faith in this one world and scientific evidence in another world; when in reality the way you are presenting isn’t exactly accurate because you presenting faith, if is this blind thing, hey it doesn’t make any sense, you don’t have any evidence but you are going to believe it anyway. You see the evidence doesn’t speak, what you done is you look at the evidence and you draw a conclusion about the evidence. You can’t listen and hear it, the evidence doesn’t talk and it doesn’t ever speak and that is the real thing/issue here. You would also boldly claim that you don’t based anything an assumption, you would say that you based everything on a scientific facts, but I say you still have an assumption because you are assuming that there is a scientific facts that can be made sense of; that are going to be same today, tomorrow and continuing that way, that’s the biggest assumption, particularly in your world view where you believing the world came around by random chance and you really don’t have logical base for believing that scientific facts can be interpret in such a way.
You see you do have assumptions and there for you can be wrong about everything, the thing what you know/believe could be wrong, you assume that you exist, you assume that the universe exist, and you assume that you can form model(s) of reality; those are assumptions, you can’t know them to be absolutely true. But the problem I see here is when you look up the word assumption in a dictionary; it says a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof. And that is the key right there I see. You make faith based assumptions and assumption is faith based.
And now I would like to look at one of Richard Dawkins quote. He said faith means blind trust, in the absence of evidence, even in the teeth of evidence… You see VK4, you say that evolution had happened and that is the fact; you can’t know the evolution had happened - that is faith based statement. But now I would like to look in one of TV program when Richard was asked, what proof can you give that evolution happened; Richard Dawkins said don’t need proof we know it’s true. Wow, and that is faith based claim Richard is saying here. When Richard says that we don’t need proof, he is making an assertion that it’s all based on faith and that is the problem.
Mark Twain once said; faith is believing what you know ain’t so.
Is there really what faith is?
What is the Biblical definition of faith, when we look at God’s word, do we believe in faith, is it blind? Is it because of evidence? Let’s see what God’s word has to say, real faith is.
But I would like to start with that I was talking about faith, assumptions that many people make and how atheist who say that they don’t have faith, actually do have faith, atheists have a lot of faith. Every single person makes assumptions; the question is what you are assuming to be true, are you trusting your senses and reasoning or are you going to go outside of yourself and trust outside source, the king of the universe “God” is the one who I put my faith and trust in. So let’s look at the Biblical definition of faith; what is the Bible say about faith. (Hebrew chapter 11 verse 1) It says: Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. To break that down what the verse is saying the faith is two things, faith is substance and faith is the evidence. It says the faith is the evidence, you see you don’t actually need evidence for faith because you see, Richard Dawkins definition of faith being blind trust were true I wouldn’t be a person of faith, I am person of faith because I know who God is, I know him. And this is why atheist find greatly difficult to understand because they assume we simply believing something in the same way that they not.
Let’s go back to Bible (John chapter 1, verse 12 - 13) talking about those who are sons of God, I think this is fascinating, tells us very clearly the truth about him. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: and (verse 13) which is powerful: Which were born, not of Blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. You really need to be born of God in order to understand this, my dear VK4. It’s absolutely interesting the thing, point Paul is making here is you don’t need to have evidence for your faith because faith is knowledge base thing, we know God, faith is the evidence.
VK4, The Bible says that the fool said in his heart there is no God, imaging somebody came up to you and said I don’t believe in words, you think that he/she is a fool, you wouldn’t pull out dictionary and give him evidence and you wouldn’t believe him, somebody comes up to and said I don’t believe in God, we don’t think that they are fool, we give them evidence and we believe them when the Bible calls them fools, something got wrong. God’s word clearly says that you do, I don’t need to proof the word of God to you; faith is the evidence.

VK4,

One last thing, I already told you this once don't go purposely on the road to get hit by passing trucks.

So now I will try to come back to my original topic / intent of this thread; hopefully no more disturbance from tares.


 

Shtal.

How does it help you stay on topic by calling people names?

Personally I stopped trying to keep up with the latest gadgets years ago, each one costs more than the last, they are almost obsolete over night, and they have been the ruin of our children and their future.

People have lost the ability to talk to each other, the art of writing, and the accountability of the printed word.
Everything that glitters isn't gold.

 

Moons, did you notice which finger is used for pointing? LOL I personally hate everything about this modern dinosaur. Who would want to buy this? I don't get it. Too big for a portable. It would have to have a snap in wall mount or something to make it attractive enough to buy, in any way.