Bet we had dogs before we invented the wheel. - Page 2

ugh.  i hate monkeys :(  bleh. <shudder>
pjp

Pretty sure the Native Americans (you know the folks we stole the Western Hemisphere from) had the dog before the wheel .. they used dogs as draft animals before they had the horse too I believe. And then there were the northern peoples who lived on sea mammals at the edge of the ice .. three dog night??  Sled dogs were there horses and oxen.

Geez it must be me, but i see lonely, traumatized monkeys that are seeking social bonding with someone, anyone that will accept them.
Notice most of the smaller monkeys have string tied to their waist? Taken from their mothers too young and with no social groups. Notice the great apes don't seem as distressed?
Sad really. :(

Nope, that's what I see, too, Fry!   It's a sad fact that the mothers are often killed so the infants can be taken away and sold as pets. I have no problem with domestic animals, but wild animals are meant to be wild. The trade in many species is threatening their survival in the wild and pushing them to the edge of extinction.

Joanro, where did your baby baboon come from?

SS, that's what happens with chimps, for pet trade but mostly for bush meat. Killing entire troops for meat market is devastating. Most likely, the monkeys in these pics came from animals bred in captivity. Most of them are macaques, which are not too close to becoming extinct, nor are the baboons or capuchins. Anyway, I don't think that the dogs in these pictures are aware that orangutans are endangered, or that the stump tail macaque on the stray is not being hunted to extinction.
Deforestation and hunting and selling bush meat is having a tremendous impact on some species.

Sorry you were offended by the pictures. If you ever saw dogs and monkeys interact, you might not be so offended. Like The baby stump tail trying to take something out of, what could be a stray, pup's mouth. Both have the option to go in opposite directions, but.....oh, well

I have had parrots, never again too freaking noisy, and aggressive. I've had reptiles, Iguanas, frogs, monitors, gecko's. Waiting for my last pet frog to die. She's 21 years old this august. I've had chickens, rodents, small birds, fish.
I'm as guilty as most if not more so.
But i will never have a pet monkey! And i have family who have been living in central america for over a century. Some of them have purchased moneys as pets. And you know where they get monkey babies in C.A.? From killing the mother and eating her and taking the baby's to sell to gringos and other fools. Monkeys make horrible pets.
It's not domesticated like a cat or a dog. It's not even as domesticated as a chicken or goat. It's up there with pet tigers in my opinion.
I see little traumatized animals, but like i said maybe it's just me.
And i agree with Bubba, we had dogs here before the horse, cow or other "Livestock or draft animals." Dogs were the beast of burden. The new world didn't even have the wheel except a few rare occasions it's been fond on children's toys in the Yucatan. Dogs are some of our oldest friends.
And i'm not a PETA or HSUS frootloop either. But some critter's don't need to be pets.
Now back to cool dogs.
Fry

 
Wild Monkeys ride goats too. but the goats don't always share the love.

Bet there were monkeys before the wheel.
Bet we had dogs before the wheel.......thanks for the history lesson dragon, you proved I won the bet. (I already knew that anyway)
This wasn't a recommendation that everybody go out and get a monkey. so y'all can relax now.

@ dragon, could you define "Gringos and OTHER fools"? You say the mother monkeys were killed and eaten...that's what bush meat is. If there is a baby left behind, would it be better for the people killing for food, to leave the infant to die of starvation, or to sell it to "gringos and OTHER fools" ? Just wonder what your take on that might be, since you appear to be experienced with the culture. Maybe we can learn something from this thread, after all.

I'm not just talking about bush meat but people going out of their way to kill monkeys to sell the babies. Mother is already dead, so why not eat her. I've seen these people chop down a huge healthy tree to steal a few baby parrots from the nest of wild birds. No baby parrots in that tree next season.
What became of your monkey? Baboons are not wimps that's for sure.
My sister worked for a lady that was part of a group trying to raise endangered cotton top marmoset that would hopfully be released back into reforested areas. She raised that tiny baby with the other lady until he was almost 8 months old because the parents rejected him and the twin died. Turned into a nasty thing when he started to hit maturity. Bite and piss on you. NOT a cool pet.
Sorry my opinion offended you but it's my opinion and you happily go on with yours. I'm not calling for the ban on monkeys. I just think they make poor pets. And the photos do bother me.
Later!
Fry

Chopping trees down = deforestation, eating wild animals from the jungle = bush meat.

Like I said, this wasn't a recommendation for every body run out and get 'em a monkey or chop a tree down and steel baby birds.
If the photos bother you, don't look.
BTW, you're opinion didn't offend me in the least. Some of the people who buy the baby monkeys orphaned by bush meat hunters are rescue groups.