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by Paul Garrison on 04 January 2013 - 15:01
I do not care about any of these turms. They are just a can of worms on this fourm. You can be as positive as you want, but if you breed APBT in to the mix animal aggressiveness will follow. What ever qualities and negitives you have in any two dogs you breed you will see again.
by Hired Dog on 04 January 2013 - 15:01
I really have no interest in what can of worms will ensue by a few simple words Paul. A question was asked, I answered it by posting what I know. Again, in my world, there is zero use for animal aggression.
by EuroShepherd on 04 January 2013 - 16:01
The definitions of gameness and tenacity have nothing to do with animal aggression.
I've known plenty of pit bull type dogs who were not animal aggressive.
The OP's naive ideas for creating a mutt for bitework is ridiculous, they should spend another decade or two learning about all the combinations and nuances of different types of drives, temperaments, etc. that goes into an individual dog's genetic propensities for any kind of biting. Then go indepth about which breeds tend to be strong or weak in each of those multitudes of drives and temperament characteristics and learning how to identify them in individual dogs.
Far too many people who have an ounce of knowledge and believe they understand it all do the exact same thing, slap two random dogs together from their chosen breeds. Those types of breeding programs always wash out with their unreliable produce.
I've known plenty of pit bull type dogs who were not animal aggressive.
The OP's naive ideas for creating a mutt for bitework is ridiculous, they should spend another decade or two learning about all the combinations and nuances of different types of drives, temperaments, etc. that goes into an individual dog's genetic propensities for any kind of biting. Then go indepth about which breeds tend to be strong or weak in each of those multitudes of drives and temperament characteristics and learning how to identify them in individual dogs.
Far too many people who have an ounce of knowledge and believe they understand it all do the exact same thing, slap two random dogs together from their chosen breeds. Those types of breeding programs always wash out with their unreliable produce.
by MKhalil on 05 January 2013 - 04:01
GSDPACK hahaha too funny!
Malinois are awesome dogs, why cross them with anything?
Malinois are awesome dogs, why cross them with anything?
by TingiesandTails on 05 January 2013 - 06:01
With all mixed-breed dogs you are running the chance of having neither of the traits you are looking for.
A handler's knowledge and work is at least 50% of successful/reliable obedience and bitework.
A handler's knowledge and work is at least 50% of successful/reliable obedience and bitework.
by Siantha on 05 January 2013 - 07:01
i dont see much mixed with a mal being a good idea. why cant people leave the breeds alone or keep their females kept away from other males inless they intend to breed?
by Hired Dog on 05 January 2013 - 11:01
The Malinois is indeed THE best dog today, but, it was not always the case. The breeders/owners/competitors back in the day, wanted certain traits in their dogs that they did not have...size was one of them, hence the breeding of Great Danes and malinois. Tenacity was another, hence the Pit Bull breedings, etc, etc. These breedings did not happen willy nilly nor were they done indefinately. They introduced the blood they wanted into their dogs and bred the puppies back to specific Malinois and so forth.
MOST of the Malinois you see today have other breeds in them if you go back far enough, especially non FCI ones.
MOST of the Malinois you see today have other breeds in them if you go back far enough, especially non FCI ones.
by Moco25 on 05 January 2013 - 19:01
This is all funny to listen too. Not always does animal aggression come out in pitbulls. I dont like these frankenstein breedings either but the reason people do is the chasing of the greatest dog ever the one that none of us have or will ever have. The undestructible dog with the size of a Rottie, the speed and agility of a Mali, the GAMENESS of the AMERICAN PITBULL TERRIER, the steady nerve of the German Shepherd with the intelligence of I guess a border Collie. This is fun conversation but seriously the reason people will continue to search is because every breed is flauded thanks to us humans.
by supakamario on 07 January 2013 - 14:01
IMO if u have the time love money, patience, will and many other things design a dog for a usable purpose, then be carful and have @ it, imo most just want something different for the novelty of haveing something different................I AM NOT A TROLL, though i dont hold my tongue do to feel of pissing someone off. thats never my goal.........PITBULLS (as a whole) have no biz in personal protection, they wherent designed for it. your pit should be a house pet or a natural obedience/NON-ppd trained dog............they where made to fight, and or protect your property from dangerous animals...........it is hardwired in their dna 2 b animal agressive.............ppd training a pit is like teaching a desturbed (mentally/emotionally) person to be a special forces/mma/judo/sniper expert........bad ideal Dogs already exsist to do what the OP wants, just get one thats proven...................pitbulls easily become liabilities.....................NO BAD DOGS, JUST BAD OWNERS THAT MISUSE GOOD DOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Bhaugh on 08 January 2013 - 16:01
Supakamario 
.............what does training a pit for ppd have to do with other DOG aggression?
As for the OP question....why try and reinvent the wheel?
Barb
.............what does training a pit for ppd have to do with other DOG aggression?As for the OP question....why try and reinvent the wheel?
Barb
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