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Hundmutter, table scraps (back in the day ) was very good fare for dogs. I doubt that during the era when scraps were fed that puppies Were being bred and kept like hogs at a commercial hog farm. Feed began being analyzed when commercial dog food started being produced.....that's a whole subject on it's own. If you're angling towards the dogs being bred with over angulation, I agree. But no amount of exercise or feed is going to fix that, however, the joints can be pulled up dramatically with improvement in environment.
As for rich Americans buying these dogs, it's cheaper to import, so the buyers might be watching where they spend cause they ain't so rich :)

table scraps.......
meat, meat fat, rice, potatos, carrots, ....
sounds like on of those super expensive exclusive diets some people spend big bucks on..


 

I have seen quite a few pups like this, some down till well past 1 y.o. and a couple who never came up completely.  All that I have experience with were Am. s/l, in very good homes and on very good diets, with every type diet and supplement imaginable tried at some point.

So, can poor diet cause something like this, probably so, it can cause a lot of ills. But for the most part, I have found it to be genetic and run in lines.

tifwiw,
Rik

Unnatural food, unnatural environment, unnatural conformation. 

Compare & contrast the way a wild canid lives and we wonder why our pets have so many problems today............crates, kennels, concrete, super rich crap in a bag foods, 2 walks around the block, supplements out the wazoo, coddled in puppyhood, not enough sunlight, etc. etc. etc. And that doesn't even touch on the way they're being bred. We unwittingly breed for weakness, then we protect and reward it and continue on in a vicious cycle. 

I agree with a lot of what has been said here already, BUT, it is painfully obvious this pup does NOT get no where near the amount of exercise a dog of this breed and size should be getting.
I also agree he probably does lack, natural vitamin D,.he just looks very unhealthy to me, (I really like seeing healthy looking pups).
And has anyone else noticed A LOT of the dogs that are posted from India, have very "strange" body shapes.
Actually, totally lacking muscle tone.

I have not seen any what I would call 'HEALTHY' looking dogs or puppies from there.  One more reason why NOT to buy from foreign country.  Nan

What Rik said his experiences were - that is what I worry about !
Seems to me that if people won't acknowledge this is a newish
phenomenon, and go on breeding irrespective of it having happened
in any given pup, when it has straightened out once its an adult, the
breed is being done a long-term disservice.
Kennel Gim in Croatia was proudly displaying a vid with a puppy
that was completely down on hocks (front in that case wasn't so bad);
so its not just dogs - and people - in Asia implicated.  Most owners
from Pakistan and India who ask on here want to take advice and do
the best for their dogs; if they are not already, most seem to accept
being put right.  Somebody is breeding and selling pups to these
individual owners though;  and they don't all buy local.
Yes, the sort of tablescraps ppl are describing do sound a bit like a
good, non commercial diet if provided in correct quantities - but I was
referring to dogs that may have not had the benefit of modern knowledge
about human or canine nutrition, and maybe had to make do on really
quite poor quality or tiny amounts of human food e.g. in the UK after WWII
while there was still Rationing.  Still didn't get lots / any at all ? puppies
walking on their hocks and wrists.

This is not only seen in Am S/L. I have seen it in show lines from other countries also.    I have NEVER seen this in working lines at all.

Hundmutter, perhaps you should take the issue of ASL conformation up with the breeders of those. Personally, I don't have any, but I do know of some ASL breeders who have nice dogs that do not exhibit the problem of the pup posted by the op. As for table scraps.... dogs who lived on them as the dogs from my childhood did, lived a healthy life til heart worms killed them....those were the days before there was even a cure for it. ( mostly our dogs got the guts from the deep sea fish us kids had the job of gutting, since we ate the "table scraps" ourselves ).
Hard but it's fair, had a good home and wouldn't stay there .....yeehawww

Horrible,puppies come like this now? They r getting worse and worse.sorry I just never had any problems with my show lines (years ago straight from Germany) looking like this.and now with my working dogs,cow hocked ???? is such a pleasure to see that a 3 month old pups back legs are horizontal!!!  When are we going to wake up.i laugh when people say,we had a gwhen I was a kid,so I want another,then go to these breeders and wonder what happened to the normal looking we were all used to in the 60-70's.NOT SHOWLINES.  Sorry about all the typos..got a new iPad.  Just can't believe what I am seeing now in this country also with this beautiful breed..so.so sad