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by beetree on 12 August 2012 - 00:08

Spoken like a professional,  .

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 12 August 2012 - 00:08

Bhaugh, as someone who has done a fair amount of research on thyroid, I would be curious as to whether they had thyroid issues first, then the heat issues. The thyroid issues maybe just weren't apparent through other symptoms earlier? Just wondering, because thyroid can serious screw w/fertility stuff. I definitely would not breed a dog w/thyroid issues; they are genetic! Just as my mom and my grandma and me! LOL

by ladystark on 12 August 2012 - 04:08

Well with hypothyroidism, wouldn't there be accompanying symptoms aside from either irregular heats or not cycling at all?
Like the usual weight gain or lethargy?

I'm assuming with these additional symptoms, you can get a sense if your dog is having a thryoid problem, affecting fertility.

trixx

by trixx on 12 August 2012 - 06:08

well i have a female that will cycle every 5 months if i dont breed her and every time i have bred her  and get a tie she has had pups, so short cycles, i dont think is a problem. it could be timming or there could be something else going on. have you checked her for Brucella , vagina cultures and mycoplasma, these are your basic breeding test to check for infections, i would also take alook at her uterus to make sure it looks good . a thyroid test may also be a good idea if you are having problems. i also have a female i use to breed that had split cycles and she always got pregnant , so i say that some females not matter what there cycle, some were meant to breed and some were not . this is what i would do if this was my female.

trixx

by trixx on 12 August 2012 - 06:08

i would not ever breed a dog that you need to Ai, that is not a good female to use.

by ladystark on 12 August 2012 - 07:08

Hi Trixx

Well she doesn't need A.I. in general.
It's just a precaution because I don't wanna introduce anything into her system. Pyo, other infections, at least the instrument is sterilized. The cleanliness I practice with my dogs isn't necessarily done by the stud owner so for that, I'd rather be sure. 

And at least slip matings wouldn't be an issue.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 12 August 2012 - 14:08

ladystark, as to your question about thyroid, not necessarily. I was one such case. My thyroid was so low when I was finally tested that I was in danger of going into a coma. My doctor was shocked I was even able to work. It had been dismissed as a cause of all my other symptoms because I was thin and my hair was soft and shiny. I'd had doctors even refuse to test it, telling me it couldn't be that bad, because I would be fat, my hair would be dry, and I wouldn't have conceived my son so easily, blah blah blah. So, no, it's not that cut and dried. And, what can be a "normal" level and suitable for one dog can be far too low for another. If I'm at the low end of the normal spectrum, I still feel like crap. I need my numbers to be more toward the middle before I feel somewhat human. Just something to think about. 

I'd make sure she was ok otherwise before trying too hard to breed her. You'd hate to find out afterwards that there was an underlying metabolic or other issue that should not have been reproduced. I have recently heard several sad stories (entire litters dying, very deformed pups, etc.) about AI breedings- makes you wonder if nature was trying to tell you something. 

aaykay

by aaykay on 12 August 2012 - 16:08

My 13-month old had her 2nd heat cycle last month, which means she is also a 4-month cycler, unless things change for her next heat.  I don't believe even for a second that she should be "removed from the gene-pool".

Felloffher

by Felloffher on 12 August 2012 - 17:08

My bitch with that goes into heat every 4 months had a litter of 9 the last time I bred her.

trixx

by trixx on 12 August 2012 - 17:08

there is 2 types of thyroid condition  you can get the over active and or under active one, one will   make you fat while the other makes you thin, i am surprise your dr did not know this, really makes me wonder about  Drs, i know all this as my mothers side has alot of thyroid problems the under active one which you can get fat from. my mother past away from her thyroid not working.





 


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