Trying to decipher puppy food. - Page 2

I am always amazed at how much people over do it for their dogs. Steamed veggies, garlic (which dogs should not eat too much of) wow, you do that everday for your dog? I would never feed my dog cooked vegtables day after day. Go with Orijen for kibble if you can't do raw.  It is grain free, is 80% animal based and you do not have to feed as much because there are no fillers.

Sounds like a good diet to me.  Full of vitamins and minerals that are all processed out of kibble. I wish I had your energy Marjorie.

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--- > garlic (which dogs should not eat too much of

I dont give too much. I give the right amount. Garlic is a natural anti-bacterial and anti-fungal food. I have had all my dogs on this, as recommended by Dr Clemmons. Jack Flash lived till he was 13 yrs old( he died from DM), Joss lived until he was 11 1/2 yrs old, and died only because of a vet mistake (too upsetting to even think about..Lets just say I KNOW I am not capable of ever murdering someone, because if I was, my vets life would have come to an abrupt end!). Missie T lived to 11 yrs old, and walked until she was 11 yrs old, despite having DM since she was 4 1/2 yrs old. I am a believer :)

--- > Go with Orijen for kibble if you can't do raw.

noooooooooooooooooooooooo thanks! No pun intended, but that was the *orijin* of Casey James' Calciosis circumscripta problems! You couldnt pay me enough to feed him that food.

Marjorie
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You cannot compare kibble protein to raw. Sorry. You just can't. Nor can you compare natural vitamins and minerals with synthetic. THERE IS NO BAGGED DIET THAT WILL EVER EQUAL A BIOLOGICALLY APPROPRIATE DIET AS CANIDS WOULD EAT IN THE WILD. 

http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/11/08/new-trends-in-pet-food.aspx

Great video of why grain-free kibble is not all that much better. Don't get me wrong...I feed them sometimes, but you can't keep your head in the sand just to clear your conscience. 

I have a friend that is feeding GO NATURAL (Salmon & Oats) with great success.  Just a thought if you do not want to feed that high of protein; it is much lower like 23%, however, their grain free is a little higher I believe  but not in the 38% bracket.  Best of luck, and just for the heck of it I might add that my very, very favorite vet of all time for the past 30 years preached NOT to feed too high protein as it makes the joints develop too quickly and future joint problems and issues, particularly with hips and elbows.  Food for thought,  Nan

--- > Sounds like a good diet to me. Full of vitamins and minerals that are all processed out of kibble. I wish I had your energy Marjorie.

My dogs are family members and its no problem for me to be able to do this for them.  Well, now its just Casey James. His coat is so shiny- it looks like glass and is so healthy looking and plush.  He is totally out of coat in this pic, yet you can see how healthy he looks. I am happy with the diet I feed :) So is Casey James :)
Marjorie
http://www.gsdbbr.org The German Shepherd Dog Breed Betterment Registry (a health registry for registered German Shepherds)
BE PROACTIVE!
http://mzjf.com --> The Degenerative Myelopathy Support Group http://www.mzjf.info/hgate Heaven's Gate  

--- >just for the heck of it I might add that my very, very favorite vet of all time for the past 30 years preached NOT to feed too high protein as it makes the joints develop too quickly and future joint problems and issues, particularly with hips and elbows.
 
Amen! Food for thought- Casey James came from a nearly solid 6 generation pedigree of OFA hips and elbows dogs. Out of the 6 pups in his litter, all fed origen, 4 were tested (out of the 6) and all four of the tested pups had bad elbows. Coming from sire and dam that were OFA hips and elbows, that a pretty high percentage of pups to have bad elbows. Accordingthe the OFA site, if you breed bad elbow to bad elbow, you will get approx 45% with bad elbows. In CJ's litter, with OFA hips and elbow sire and dam, 66% had bad elbows. The other 2 werent even tested,, so the percentage could be higher. I do not believe a pup should ever be fed a high protein/high calcium food. I cant help but wonder if that didnt have something to do with the bad elbows in the litter, as well as exacerbating CJ's neck injury so that layer and layer of calcium kept developing over the injury...

Marjorie
http://www.gsdbbr.org The German Shepherd Dog Breed Betterment Registry (a health registry for registered German Shepherds)
BE PROACTIVE!
http://mzjf.com --> The Degenerative Myelopathy Support Group http://www.mzjf.info/hgate Heaven's Gate 
 

I've mentioned that elbow issue many times and it falls on deaf ears amongst the crowd that wants to blame breeders for everything that goes wrong with a dog. Don't we hear more about bad elbows than in the past? Is it coincidence? Or could it have to do with the new trendy diets? Don't get me wrong; I'm all for feeding better food and am something of a health nazi, but we have to open our eyes and realize that high levels of synthetic vitamins and minerals do impact/interfere with natural growth patterns. If dysplasia was strictly genetic, it'd have been all figured out by now;-).