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Barenfell: Thnaks for the advice. I am based in Pakistan and have not been able to find a suitable puppy/ dog. There are only a few good pedegree dogs ( GSD) and not many for sale also the people here keep them as hobby/ pets and hence dont have the right information about them. I would say that 99.9% of the dogs here have no papers or regular health checks. I am the type that once I take to a dog then thats for life no matter how they turn out to be ( hence I would rather import a female between 6-12 months). So for me its a catch 22, do I take my chances with a dog from here who's pedegree/ bloodline is dubious and has had no proper health care ( maybe the annual vaccines, if that!!) or do i take my chances on importing!!

Ideally, as you suggest it would be better to see the puppy/ dog in person but I just don't have the time and neither the expenses. Thanks for your advice.

Here are some more pictures of clio  from the second link i downloaded, and the papers that the breeder can provide. Its in hungarian and i don't have a clue as to whether its correct or not, is it this paper which is known as a' pink papers'. Please help. Thanks and regards.

Hi all,

Just to update you's on the above two dogs on sale from the same breeder in hungary. He has emailed me and stated that I ask too many questions and that he was selling the dog to me at a cheap price and that I should buy from someone else!!! And I have thanked him for his advise and will do accordingly.

So the search continues for a loang coated female between 4-12 months...............

When buying a dog, there is no such thing as 'too many questions'. To me, it would show the dog was going to a good home, where the buyer sincerely cared about it. (Okay, have to make allowances for whackos who expect the puppy to be already fully trained....)  I think you dodged a bullet here!

I have seen SO many incidents on the PDB where someone imported a dog from Europe, and things went south: papers not delivered, or dog was misrepresented, or even another puppy was sent in place of the one the buyer was expecting. There are a LOT of shysters out there, and some of these European countries are in very poor shape financially, so breeders will do whatever they can to sell their dogs.

Personally, I would not buy a dog unless I REALLY REALLY knew and trusted the breeder, or could see it in the flesh before purchasing.

Caveat emptor, as they say!

I was going to make some comments but SS prettty much expressed my thoughts.

Buying unseen/unkown can be risky and costly. I have a friend who has bought 2 adult dogs from a couple different well known breeders. One dog has as yet undiagnosed digestive problems (and several thousand dollars have been spent) and the other has very poor character and a vaginal tract too small for natural breeding.

jmo,
Rik

I Agree with Sunsilver and Rik. The rip offs continue and seem to be getting worse. I know of some folks that are going through No papers and adult females purchased and their breeding issues. Either not breeding natural, pups die at birth and Bitches with no milk, some still no papers, or papers not in order. 

Seems to be happening even with established kennels sending out these dogs with all sorts of promises/hype and not standing behind it. 

Shaz1, I agree, you may have just dodged a bullet. I had one guy here in the states I contacted about an imported dog for sale, he was very short, blunt and didn't like me asking questions either, He Said "do I want this dog or not"---I said -since it is so inconvenient for him to talk to me and answer my questions, I did not want his dog. Idiot.
Weezy.

I cannot believe they told you that you were asking too many questions!!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!!

I agree, bullet has been dodged! consider yourself very lucky!

Where are you looking at buying from?
Buying over the internet is so extremly risky and no such thing as a good cheap dog.. Nobody does you any favors over the internet :)

Those two dogs you represented were not good looking to me..

Find a trustworthy person on the forum and contact them for help. Try Ibrahim, I don't want to offend and claim he is from somewhere close to you. 
Without knowing him at all, he seems like a respectable person and knows his things, but then again the internet is a tricky place.

Best of luck, and I hope I don't see a thread in a few months where you claimed you were ripped off.

If you are looking at Europe, here are a few kennels that I like, don't know the owners, haven't been there, haven't seen their dogs, I just like these kennels.

Don't buy in Eastern Europe, is my advice. If you can find a nice breeder in Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Norway or those places, that's where I would go personally.

http://gildewangens.weebly.com/

http://www.thunderdust.se/

http://gramanns.se/

http://www.kirschenbach.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&lang=en&id=19&Itemid=39

--- > Just to update you's on the above two dogs on sale from the same breeder in hungary. He has emailed me and stated that I ask too many questions and that he was selling the dog to me at a cheap price and that I should buy from someone else!!! 

Consider yourself lucky! Honestly, I wasnt all that enamored of either dog and with the kind of attitude displayed by the breeder- there is only one word to say.... R-U-N!!!!! LOL!

Marjorie
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