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fawndallas

by fawndallas on 14 July 2012 - 23:07

Lol... I get the same from Rose. She has learned that "bedtime" means I am going to bed. If I don't go there immediately, she is very insistent. When we go somewhere, she gets a confused look on her face, paces awhile, then lays down.

fawndallas

by fawndallas on 14 July 2012 - 23:07

Good point about knowing people by name. Let me rethink this, as Rose knows everyone here by name too.

alboe2009

by alboe2009 on 15 July 2012 - 00:07

Not to throw a monkey wrench into the spokes..................... The COMMAND/WORD "OUT" or that command in any other language; my two females are in Dutch; "Los" means just that. No hand signals for that command...... and there are many more. But the K9 does understand words.

Also, I can lay out certain toys, rewards and training aids and call/say them by name and the dogs will retrieve exactly what I ask for, (the word of the object).


fawndallas

by fawndallas on 15 July 2012 - 01:07

Thinking......

fawndallas

by fawndallas on 15 July 2012 - 01:07

Ok. Based on that, let's take an example. -------- You lay out 5 toys. Ball, rope, frisbee, stuff duck, and a chew bone. You have taught the dog what the frisbee isis by repeating the word everytime right? ----- now set down a different color/ size frisbee (not the one you always play with) and a paper plate. ------ now tell your dog to go get the frisbee. Are you 100% sure they will not pick up the paper plate?

fawndallas

by fawndallas on 15 July 2012 - 01:07

Same with the family name. The husband in the family is identified as "bob.". When you tell your dog to go to "bob" they always go to the husband. This is all good. Now bring in your "uncle bob.". You introduce your uncle to the dog as "this is bob.". ---- Now take the husband "bob" out of the home. Tell the dog to "go to bob.". Will your dog go to "uncle bob" or look around and search for the husband "bob?"

by beetree on 15 July 2012 - 02:07

Go back to the first part. The Uncle Bob stuff makes no sense to a dog, because he has a nose and if you want this Bob or that Bob he will surely correlate. And did you see that video with the dog that knew the names all all his toys, and then without any training or prompting was also able to retrieve each toy just by being shown a picture! AWESOME! Now, like people, not all dogs are this gifted, but heck, it exists.

GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 15 July 2012 - 02:07

Silly? I am so glad you said it, because I have tears streaming down my face right now.  I just don't see this being carried through to the "next" step, so why use it when you aren't a dog yourself?

Are you referring to my comment? Little drastic aren't we, "tears streaming down my face"......   Of course I don't use those techniques to work with dogs, like I said I was just goofing around doing that towards the Doberman. Question to you though......Should Shaun Ellis have used "human training techniques" when living with the wolves?  

by beetree on 15 July 2012 - 02:07

GUY... oh, well, I would answer that about Shaun Ellis if I knew who the heck he was...my best guess is he is that guy who made a documentary and acted like a wolf? 

Look, Silly is because, I would not be sending my clients off with the idea that if their 8 wk old pup plus a few weeks or so,  gets cranky, they just need to bite its ear, and show some pearly whites with a convincing growl. Well, because that is what the breeder did. Get it?


fawndallas

by fawndallas on 15 July 2012 - 02:07

That is my point. Dogs do not understand the words we teach them, they only understand when we make a certain sound a response is expected and a consequence will occur. -------- Based on this, I use the "sounds" that most dogs learn as a puppy to my training advantage.





 


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