Slowing down the speed demon tracker - Page 2

Nice flame war folks.  This is the exact reason this forum gets so little valuable posts.

I was actually interested in the OP's questions, as I'm thinking about getting into tracking.  But hey, what's a thread jacking if you have a whack of titles after your names?

Keep the peen war going.  It's entertaining for nobody other than yourselves.

I agree with TJL , you can resoulve the result of the  problem , or resoulve the origin of the problem , hanging on the line and prongcollars wont get to the origin of the problem , I would say go back to the beginning, trackin in a square
here is how i do it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qmm6GB2Hrxw 

Reread the OP.
Speed is the onlly problem. Going back to fully baited steps is a waste of time and energy. There is a difference between tracking and hot dog hunting or Liver luring. A prong collar on both rings can work. It is sure worth a try? Adding more articles will slow a speed demon down.  A lot of experienced people don't post here because informative posts get lost in the sheer number of nonsense posts by people with no experience spouting second hand information.

Thomas Barriano
Dubheasa Germania (11/05/99-08/11/08) SchH III M R Brevet AKC WD III AWD 1 STP 1 CD WAC TT
Ascomannis Jago (06/20/03) SchH III AKC WD III AWD I TT WAC
Belatucadrus (08/14/05) DS BH TT MR I
Flannchadh von der Bavarianburg (5/21/08) BH STP I

would it be worth more if I add all my achievements of the last 25 years under my name
if you want to fix a problem you want to fix what caused the problem, not what it is resulting in

Duke 1965

Your reply would be worth more if it was based on personal experience. I had the same probem trying to slow down my Dobermann male Jago. I did some one on one training with a well known FST trainer and she suggested the prong (amongst other things) and it worked very well (we V'd our next track).
As far as the tiltes after my name? If YOU have some way of indicating that your advice is based on your own experience and not some theory you're regurgitating?  Why  wouldn't you post it? Let's hear how many dogs you've trained or titled in Schutzhund. Titles talk and BS walks (but it don't track)
If the original poster wants REAL tracking advice?
Go train with Gene England or Tim and Lori Cruser or buy one of Gary Patterson's books or Joanne Plumbs Fondations of Tracking DVD set.

Thomas Barriano
Dubheasa Germania (11/05/99-08/11/08) SchH III M R Brevet AKC WD III AWD 1 STP 1 CD WAC TT
Ascomannis Jago (06/20/03) SchH III AKC WD III AWD I TT WAC
Belatucadrus (08/14/05) DS BH TT MR I
Flannchadh von der Bavarianburg (5/21/08) BH STP I

thomas , not everybody is the same and feels the need to publisch achievements under every post to give weight on their opinion , if you read my previous post and see the video , that is me and my new dog and that is how I do it, first in the square, where the dog doesnot have the possability to run and the result is that you can track without line or linepressure.
if you are believer of prong and muscle, fine , but many trainers are past that station

I went from all baited track to every 5 to 7 steps. All he did was race to every 5th or 7th step. LOL
Now I've been staggering my bait. Seem's to be working. Sometimes every other step, then nothing for 10. Keep's him thinking and checking every step now. Good Luck.  Pete

Duke,

Show me a video of your dog tracking, not following hot dogs or other treats with visible foot prints. This is a young dog and not old enough to trial? How has this method worked on your other dogs?
I'm a believer in using what ever tool it takes to get the job done. Treats and clickers or prongs and remote trainers.

Thomas Barriano

Thomas you are right it is training , no trail , and it is a young dog, but more useful than watching a dog tracking in competition as that wont tell you how it was trained

I agree on every tool that gets the job done, but still say that prong and muscle dont solve the problem , maybe only the result of the problem, and that can possibly create other problems and ive seen quite a few of them, nothing better and learning faster than the dog himself bringing the answer

Try aging the tracks and that could help.