Home/Family Protection Dog vs Police/Military Dog - Page 2

That seems to be the way things work anymore. I can remember when if a breeder had good dogs another breeder that had good dogs could have his pick of anything he wanted because it was gain for both in bloodlines. Now good breeding is secondary to the dollar. Sorry to hear that

Hank

when he bought the young male he said it was his last dog and he would stay with him forever so that was good for me , now he will most likely end up in the USA or far east
If I had the $$ I go there and buy him myself but that would be some expensive studservices LOL

thanks everyone for the feedback, there are so many things I had not considered that are needed for a police/military dog (not having any experience in that area myself). I now understand why Filas are so popular for home protection, but are not seen around with the police/soldiers.
So it sounds like most police dogs would make fine home protection dogs, but not all home protection dogs would make fine police dogs. Is this fair to say? Or are there traits that make a good police dog good that conflict with the dog being able to be a good home/family protection dog (other than perhaps it needing more exercise to brun off the energy)?

Actually, in an ideal world, I would say that a police working dog can be a PPD as well...but, that also depends on the dog too. Case in point..there are Malinois coming out of KNPV program, a program that I love, by the way, that may not be so stellar with strange noises and such. Its a nerve issue and I have seen it once too many times for my taste.
When it comes to the ultimate dogs, nerves, active aggression, civil drives, etc, I think that the NVBK line Malinois are the best all around dogs in the world and be used for ANY working/protection purpose.
If I were looking to protect my house or my family, there is nothing better then a well bred Fila, plus, it needs no training to protect, but, they are not much good for anything else. The Malinois will forever be my breed.

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I don't understand that. how could any dog of any breed, ride in a car shopping, go home let dog out, do a parameter search of property (un attended), open the house door, let the dog in to do inside search of residence, watch little kids while playing with neighbor kids. And attack a would be assasin. Without training? No Fila, No Mali, No GSD. That's my point. If you have to put a dog on a leash to control while protecting then it is of minimal value. Or better yet just generic dog that will bite. Because it is a K9 dog would not have much to do with it unless trained for that purpose. A good protection dog is one you never know is there until you need him. temperment and strong nerves would be the utmost.

Hank

Hank..

I am not sure what you said...maybe you can explain it so I can respond intelligently. What I said is that if I wanted a STRICTLY protection dog, I will go with a Fila since I have owned the breed and have experienced the level of protection it offers.
It is not a breed for everyone, I agree, it does not support a very active social life, I agree, but, when it comes to protection, without training, nothing beats a well bred Fila. 

That could very well be right. My point was not to offend you or anyone else. My point is you have to determine the task required of the dog. To say one would be interchangeable just because it excelled at one task does not mean he would be the same caliber at another task. And at any job selection should be based on task required, and trained according to that. It is not so much a breed, or sex it is about what the dogs possess that would make them better than just another dog.

Hank

Yes, Fila's are not for social people, that's for sure. It has to be very well kenneled when having guests, unless you don't want the guests to ever come back 

maybe energy and drive? i am sure a military and police dog will need a lot more energy and drive than a pp dog which stays at home a lot only being worked like once a week.


A lot of mals seem to be pd dogs but how many make good family protection dogs? they are not the kind of dog you keep in the house loose while you are out. A PP dog is a dog you want sleeping and open all the time, while you are out not crated as an adult. WHat good is a protection dog if it is locked up while someone comes in your house>?


 a pp dog is a pet that can get civil and serious and bite and fight for you when you need it. A pd or military dog has bunch of tasks it seems and much more complex. A pp dog seems a lot more easy to find, you can try many other breeds if a gsd is not what you want but today it seems a gsd is what you will have best luck in by far.  For PD it seems mal/dutch and gsd is what police and military are limited to? (For the patrol/arrest/attack stuff not sniffing etc that labs and other breeds are used for) this is just from what i have seen i dont know for sure.

The eighteen year old kid that stays at home and plays computer games is the same kid that when they finish basic training is ready to be a military person.....think about it.!