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by EuroShepherd on 08 May 2012 - 00:05
lol, there is no cure for the need-to-know-now,
just have to suffer.

by DDRCzechFan on 08 May 2012 - 01:05
Damn...Euro, you could'a at least given me SOME sort of hope.
Anyone wanna send me a 2 year old dog for me to do OFA testing on? LMAO
Anyone wanna send me a 2 year old dog for me to do OFA testing on? LMAO


by Ramage on 08 May 2012 - 01:05
If you have the money to burn and he's not getting sedated, I see no issue why you shouldn't do it just to get a peek.

by DDRCzechFan on 08 May 2012 - 01:05
Well, not "money to burn" but damnit, I WANNA KNOW! I know it sounds rediculous how impatient I am, but ya know, like I said, if it isn't going to hurt him, cause him damage, and they do a nice job of the xrays, I'll know where to take him for the prelims at 12months and then the finals at 24months.

by starrchar on 08 May 2012 - 02:05
I was told that Pennhip is accurate as early as 4 months, but the x-rays are done differently than with OFA.

by Psycht on 08 May 2012 - 03:05
While not 4 months - I had my bitch Pennhip'd at 9 months. Fast forward to her being 3+ years old and my personal vet was getting certified in Pennhip and used Frost as one of his certifying dogs. Different vets, two and a half years apart, and she got the exact same Pennhip distraction ratings on each hip.
by edith on 08 May 2012 - 03:05
PENNHIP is supposed to be good for life. They do 2 views. one is the "ofa" view most people are used to. The second view gives an accurate view of joint laxity. The results as early as 4 months are good for life. The OFA view is only a snapshot in time and can change. I know of many dogs with good views at 12 months that did not pass at 2. I have also seen dogs not pass at 12 months because of bad positioning that passed at 3 years of age. If you know how to position, you can influence the OFA result. PENNHIP is much more accurate in my opinion. It is a shame it is not used more often.

by Two Moons on 08 May 2012 - 04:05
DDR,
Maybe I'm more confident, or more patient, and I know I'm going to train my dogs and give them the best life I can provide no matter what, money's not the issue, so I don't bother with this foolishness until they have a chance to grow and mature, and have them done at 24 months/ under anesthesia.
And at that time have them micro-chipped.
Moons.
Maybe I'm more confident, or more patient, and I know I'm going to train my dogs and give them the best life I can provide no matter what, money's not the issue, so I don't bother with this foolishness until they have a chance to grow and mature, and have them done at 24 months/ under anesthesia.
And at that time have them micro-chipped.
Moons.

by ziegenfarm on 08 May 2012 - 06:05
on the flip-side of the coin are the dogs that don't xray well, yet go on to compete at national & international events and live long and healthy lives. and just because a dog might xray well at 12 or 24 mo. that is no guarantee that the dog might not develop spondylosis later on. spondylosis and DM are both far worse than a bad hip. it would be nice and so much easier if we could predict the future by radiography, but in reality, even the most beautiful xray pic only tells part of the story.
pjp
pjp
by agilitylad on 08 May 2012 - 10:05
would wait until maybe 8 or 9 months
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