Sold a German Shepherd and got a Mal

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by Mystere on 24 May 2011 - 22:05

?? Why is a mutt worth $200. Not arguing, just curious as to how one arrives at that figure. I would think a mutt iw worth what you could get one from the pound for, and no more.

by cphudson on 24 May 2011 - 23:05

Sorry to hear you what happen to you. The club where I train have a lot of Mals, GSD, & mixes of the 2. The GSD + Mal mix is popular with some of the correction officers / cops in our group.
I'm not a big fan of most of the pure bred Mal's, but I love the mixes. Most of the mixes are active but ever out going & social with good nerve.

Should request for at least half your $ back though for a mix puppy is not worth the same amount you paid. If she doesn't work out as a therapy dog you can always try other ways to give back like SAR, bed bug sniffing dogs, help finding lost pets, agility programs where austic children can handler her, help keep air ports / military bases / golf courses clear of birds, etc..

Good luck

by benzi on 25 May 2011 - 00:05

Can you put a picture up so we can see what she looks like..thanks

by Chaz Reinhold on 25 May 2011 - 00:05

Mystere, better tell the Doodle Poo people that.

by windwalker18 on 25 May 2011 - 02:05

You were sold and paid for a purebred registered dog that you could compete in AKC events with, as well as using as a therapy dog. If you can get a DNA on her, and send that with the contract to the AKC Ethics committee you may get some action, especially if you can get your local all breed club behind you. While they're kind of worthless on many contract disputes the promise of a registered dog IS in their venue to address. If nothing else they can pull the registration on the breeder's dogs and refuse him the right to register litters. If he used a Police K9 in breeding there may also be an issue with the PD as most often the K9's are actually owned by the Department, and they wouldn't be too thrilled with his misrepresenting the puppy.
Pick a $ amount, ask for 1/2 or 2/3 of the purchase price, plus any genetic testing to prove her ancestry. As one other poster daid, she may prove to be awesome as a therapy dog when she matures. Remember that high energy dogs need more exercise than your average couch potato. Swimming, chasing ball, treadmill etc all will help/

by troublelinx on 25 May 2011 - 04:05

Sounds like your typical "bait and switch", possibly he thought it would not be an issue if the dogs looked enough like the GSD. He was wrong. With his ethics I doubt you will be seeing any money.

by Dhaines on 25 May 2011 - 13:05

I can't believe I actually uploaded this. I have a couple others I wanted to share, but this will have to do.
Everyone had great advice and I appreciate all of it. I think I will definitely have my husband write him a letter appealing to his sense of duty, maybe even try and make him feel a little guilty for taking advantage a woman while my husband is deployed. If that doesn't work, this guy has no honor or heart and I'll drop it.
We work on general obedience every day and play games to keep her busy. Yesterday she learned how to catch a toy and a ball from a sitting position. I'm so proud ;)
We are going to work as hard as we can to get her to be a therapy dog, but she's our family now and if not, that is okay. I have a great trainer that is going to help me with private sessions and she knows what she's doing. Our goal was for her to go to work with my husband after he completed psychiatry residency to work with the military returning with PTSD and other psychological issues.
For those of you that are wondering, I did my research and talked extensively with the breeder about what I wanted in a GS (back before he got my deposit and stopped talking to me). The reason I picked a GS is because of their temperament, ability to train, and loyalty. Not to mention I think they are the most beautiful dogs ever! Her mother is a therapy dog and the breeders wife is a trainer, so I assumed when he told me this would be the perfect dog for me, he knew what he was talking about.
I still have faith in most people and I'm grateful for my little girl. If I had it to do all over again, I would have done it anyway, she's perfect!
Thanks again!
Dayna

by LadyFrost on 25 May 2011 - 14:05

hmm...if i did not know she was mal, i would have said she is GSD...but knowing she is part Mal...makes you see it her..

she is a beautiful girl...love dark mask...

by weissblau on 25 May 2011 - 20:05

Sold a German Shepherd and got a Mal by Dhaines on 24 May 2011 - 10:05	Dhaines Posts: 8 Joined: Sun May 22, 2011 01:32 pm
When I picked up the dog the breeder (an officer of the law) told me that the puppies father was his K-9 service dog and was currently with another handler, so I couldn't see it. He told me all about the dog and what an amazing dog it was sounds like this breeder " pulled the wool over your face, he should have shown you a picture of he's " stud ". There should have been a Sales contract with Money back guarantee. Consider it a learning experience. . I waited for almost 4 months for the papers and every time I tried to contact the breeder I was ignored. I finally got mad and sent an angry email and posted on his web site and he responded with some story that he sent the papers in to the AKC but they screwed them up and now they won't help him fix them. When I took the dog to the vet, he called it a Malinios. the Vet was most likely correct. He had DNA testing done on one of the males and found out. However, he knew when he sold me that dog her daddy was his Mal service dog. He basically told me that I had a much superior dog and that was it. He promised to send me info on both her parents and of course, I haven't heard a word.She was so scared of everyone and everything and very aggressive towards me the first couple weeks. some things are genetically ankered in, with much training and patience temperament problems can be covered up. Why spend all this time and money on such a Dog. It costs no more to feed a breed worthy GSD than what you discribed. Take it for what it's worth. Anna What do all of you experienced GS dog owners think? I would appreciate any advice you could give me. P.S. I've read some real hateful responses to other posts, so if you want to tell me I'm stupid or this is somehow my fault, please just move along.

by VomMarischal on 25 May 2011 - 20:05

Sure looks like a Shepawah to me! Some people breed them on purpose, although I would have no idea why. Maybe if you're in Holland it's ok....I train occasionally with one and he's a bit of an ass. He LOOOOVES going in for a fight with his muzzle on. And he fights dirty. I guess basically he got all the attitude of a Mal but the size of a GSD.

It's great that you love her.

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