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by realmccoy on 28 April 2011 - 13:04
Hey I had a bit of a problem with that too, I asked Lady Frost for some suggestions after seeing her/ this post on another thread, I had to ask how she does it.
I taught my puppies the Leave It command with treats. Then during feeding I moved their bowls further apart and stood between them so that they didnt move to each others bowls to start a fight, it worked after a few corrections (had to pull them apart by their fur and pick them up twice and say No when they went at each other) There were some scratches and a little bit of blood, but they got the point and can now eat in harmony.
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Multiple dogs in house by LadyFrost on 12 April 2011 - 12:04 |
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ok, here are some last nights photos after playing with sprinklers... feeding time...   leaving after done.   |
I taught my puppies the Leave It command with treats. Then during feeding I moved their bowls further apart and stood between them so that they didnt move to each others bowls to start a fight, it worked after a few corrections (had to pull them apart by their fur and pick them up twice and say No when they went at each other) There were some scratches and a little bit of blood, but they got the point and can now eat in harmony.
by LadyFrost on 28 April 2011 - 14:04
realmccoy... :) great, I was wondering how it was going.....I am glad its working out...
Just make sure you enforce leaving part after being done...I have a VERY slow eater and 2 that inhale their food so this works out great, slow eater does not have to feel intimidated and can finish her food in peace...while others are not standing over her drooling...
Just make sure you enforce leaving part after being done...I have a VERY slow eater and 2 that inhale their food so this works out great, slow eater does not have to feel intimidated and can finish her food in peace...while others are not standing over her drooling...
by NIKKI04 on 28 April 2011 - 15:04
I guess I should have made myself more clear... 1st it's not my pup, it's a friend of mine and she is a first time GSD owner... And No the agression is not towards other pups .. I know that is expected it's towards THEM humans!!! I think he is definitely testing them... Any suggestions for corrections to be given to him??? There is an 11 yr old boy in the house he loves the dog but he is getting a little intimidated by him , the dog bit him on the thumb nail. The boy really wants to take charge of him and teach him no!!!!
by Teufel Hunde on 28 April 2011 - 16:04
I feed several dogs (3 Sheps, 2 mutts)at once in the same area. They all have to sit and wait at the kitchen entrance while I make their bowls. On command,believe it or not it's oogedy boogedy thanx to my grandson, they are released to go to their respective bowls. They are allowed to grumble and warn other dogs if they come too close to their bowls, but not take action. (Wouldn't you grumble if someone tried to grab something off your plate?)The bowls are lined up about 3 feet from each other. When finished they go wait for the others by the door to go out where they all sit and wait until released . I've been doing this for years with several different sets of dogs with no problems. Right now I have a new pup that eats slower than the big guys and grumbles the whole time. The other dogs do not dare try and take his food.
When I first get a dog/pup I take the bowl/toy/treat/bone etc away several times while they have it. I've raised dogs around 3 sons(now grown) and now a grandson with no problems. I have however always included the kids in the care/feeding of them. I have never had aggression to humans with food with my dogs. I've had fosters come through that I had to work with, but I've always been able to break it with higher value training and hand feeding .I supply the food, I decide when you eat it! It's my world and they live in it.
When I first get a dog/pup I take the bowl/toy/treat/bone etc away several times while they have it. I've raised dogs around 3 sons(now grown) and now a grandson with no problems. I have however always included the kids in the care/feeding of them. I have never had aggression to humans with food with my dogs. I've had fosters come through that I had to work with, but I've always been able to break it with higher value training and hand feeding .I supply the food, I decide when you eat it! It's my world and they live in it.
by desert dog on 28 April 2011 - 16:04
Nikk104,
The way I was interpeting your post was pups were aggresive with each other while feeding. The owners first should take control of the pup by making him or her sit and wait till they put the pan down, then leave it alone until it is done. I would not let a kid or adult screw with my dogs while eating. Eating is a means of survival for a dog or should be. I welcome a dog that will fight to survive, if he won't it will show up in other weakneses. But at the same time dog has to see you as his source, you either control dog or dog controls you. That young kid should be taught how to take authority over the dog and it has to be someone other than his parents because obviously they don't know either. A young kid can get to where they don't want anything to do with dogs if they ever start getting afraid of them and thats a shame. A good way to handle dogs is they must be taught that nothing in life is free. To get something they want, they should do something to earn it. If they want to be fed, sit and they will get it. It doesn't take long. And again once you give it to them it's theirs, leave them alone till they are done.
Hank
The way I was interpeting your post was pups were aggresive with each other while feeding. The owners first should take control of the pup by making him or her sit and wait till they put the pan down, then leave it alone until it is done. I would not let a kid or adult screw with my dogs while eating. Eating is a means of survival for a dog or should be. I welcome a dog that will fight to survive, if he won't it will show up in other weakneses. But at the same time dog has to see you as his source, you either control dog or dog controls you. That young kid should be taught how to take authority over the dog and it has to be someone other than his parents because obviously they don't know either. A young kid can get to where they don't want anything to do with dogs if they ever start getting afraid of them and thats a shame. A good way to handle dogs is they must be taught that nothing in life is free. To get something they want, they should do something to earn it. If they want to be fed, sit and they will get it. It doesn't take long. And again once you give it to them it's theirs, leave them alone till they are done.
Hank
by Teufel Hunde on 28 April 2011 - 16:04
How many pups do they have? Is this a litter that they still have at 5 months? I'd be more concerned about the boy getting nabbed on the finger. How did that happen?Food?
by Vixen on 28 April 2011 - 16:04
I would not care to give instructions over the internet, by text alone, not knowing either the family involved or the dog. I would add that I would never expect my own dogs (whatever age) to show aggression towards myself while eating or towards one another. They respect me and they respect our Family Pack Rules.
They eat together in the same room. Also when we are on holiday (we may even be in a small galley of a boat), so they need to eat respectfully together.
If you wish to see a photo, please refer to the List Classified section, under Trainer (UK) dated 9th March, and see my three GSD's eating their raw Marrow Bones very close together.
Vixen
They eat together in the same room. Also when we are on holiday (we may even be in a small galley of a boat), so they need to eat respectfully together.
If you wish to see a photo, please refer to the List Classified section, under Trainer (UK) dated 9th March, and see my three GSD's eating their raw Marrow Bones very close together.
Vixen
by Jenni78 on 28 April 2011 - 18:04
Nikki, the thread got on this track because of Sitasmom's post, not really yours. Sorry about that. I was responding to her, not you- I was pretty aghast that someone would have GSD pups who WOULDN'T be willing to kill each other over food. Apparently, Hank and Wade and I see things just a bit differently than others.
I see nothing similar about puppies brawling over food and people having a problem w/"food aggression." It's no different than any other OB issue- if you don't like it, correct them. Put a prong collar and leash on him (gee, there's a novel thought) if he can't be civil (human meaning) while eating. Correct for unacceptable behavior and reward for desired behavior. Pretty black and white.
I have found that some of my most food aggressive dogs have turned into my favorites; I like a dog w/some backbone, w/some fight, and I have never, ever, not even once, had an issue w/these dogs and my son or myself when it comes to them eating. I teach them over a period of a couple days (and I don't do it nicely) that they will not maul me as if I'm their littermate. The really tough ones might take a week to learn it, but after that, no problem. But if you're not willing to be as serious as the dog, you're pretty much screwed and will continue to tiptoe around your eating dog.
And I don't see the big deal about adult dogs eating their own food and not getting into fights. All my dogs are possessive and aggressive over food and they know any dog they approach will jump them for that kind of infraction, and besides, I'm standing there if they're near each other, and a simple "leave it" ought to be enough to keep them minding their own business. But you won't have that kind of control if you won't demand it, which is where so many people get into trouble.
I see nothing similar about puppies brawling over food and people having a problem w/"food aggression." It's no different than any other OB issue- if you don't like it, correct them. Put a prong collar and leash on him (gee, there's a novel thought) if he can't be civil (human meaning) while eating. Correct for unacceptable behavior and reward for desired behavior. Pretty black and white.
I have found that some of my most food aggressive dogs have turned into my favorites; I like a dog w/some backbone, w/some fight, and I have never, ever, not even once, had an issue w/these dogs and my son or myself when it comes to them eating. I teach them over a period of a couple days (and I don't do it nicely) that they will not maul me as if I'm their littermate. The really tough ones might take a week to learn it, but after that, no problem. But if you're not willing to be as serious as the dog, you're pretty much screwed and will continue to tiptoe around your eating dog.
And I don't see the big deal about adult dogs eating their own food and not getting into fights. All my dogs are possessive and aggressive over food and they know any dog they approach will jump them for that kind of infraction, and besides, I'm standing there if they're near each other, and a simple "leave it" ought to be enough to keep them minding their own business. But you won't have that kind of control if you won't demand it, which is where so many people get into trouble.
by LadyFrost on 28 April 2011 - 19:04
Jenni, well said....
NIKKI being nice and asking nicely full grown dog will not work...gotta get it corrected as soon as possible I say you are 5 months behind already... and you will have to remind them now and than of who owns whom...if you let it slip once it will take you twice as long to get it back on track...
NIKKI being nice and asking nicely full grown dog will not work...gotta get it corrected as soon as possible I say you are 5 months behind already... and you will have to remind them now and than of who owns whom...if you let it slip once it will take you twice as long to get it back on track...
by Red Sable on 28 April 2011 - 20:04
NIKKI is not 5 months behind as it is not her dog, but a friends.
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