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by sueincc on 25 April 2011 - 03:04

My stumbling block/confusion is the WUSV thing. If the reason USA allows GSDCA WDA members to participate in their trials is because WUSV requires that all member clubs allow each other to participate in each other trials then by the same token, doesn't GSDCA WDA have to allow USA members to participate in it's trials too? What am I missing?

by Dog1 on 25 April 2011 - 12:04

Sue,

There's a disconnect bewee t GSDCA an thGSDCA-WDA. The GSDCA is a WUSV member, the GSDCA-WDA is not. The agreement between WUSV clubs which allows the GSDCA members to participate in USA events does not flow through to the WDA. That's why you ave to b a WDA member. It's h only way you can ompete in WDA events. You can compete in USA events by indirect membership.

by sueincc on 25 April 2011 - 13:04

Seems like when the Johannes Amendment passed, didn't I hear a lot from the WDA folks about how everyone was welcome at their trials, member or no? Guess things have changed.

The way it was explained to me, since GSDCA is a member of WUSV, as is USA, members of GSDCA must be allowed to enter USA trials, but not if someone was just a member of WDA. So if GSDCA is printing their name on all WDA scorebooks just so that WDA members can enter USA trials, shouldn't turn about be fair play?

Thanks for explaining it though.

by leeshideaway on 25 April 2011 - 13:04

I know people that are UScA members that got schutzhund titles at a WDA club but it had to be an SV judge at the WDA trial.
I also know a guy that told me a UScA club would not do a korung at a show because he was a WDA member or he had to be a UScA member.
Another friend that is/was an SV member told me that joining the SV will not help in these circumstances.
(unless I lived in Germany)

by Hedi on 25 April 2011 - 23:04

So there is more alphabet soup...the GSDCA-WDA is different then the GSDCA? So basically you have to be aware that any judge that signs your book is a SV judge regardless of affiliation. Hypothetically one could get titled up to a SCH III and then seek out a SCH III title with a SV judge signature and be okay to go anywhere?

by Hedi on 26 April 2011 - 00:04

http://www.germanshepherddog.com/documents/2011_WUSVqualifier.pdf

by Rik on 26 April 2011 - 03:04

Hedi, I'm in the beginning stages so there is better advice from others. but if I put in the time and expense, I'm going to present my dogs to SV judges.

Rik

by Rik on 26 April 2011 - 03:04

I did not realize that one had to be a member of WDA to participate in events. Guess I need to send in my dues.

The GSDCA does not require membership to participate in any of their events.

by sueincc on 26 April 2011 - 03:04

OK, so over on the Green Board I just read where Cindy Peterson says anyone can trial at a WDA event, you do NOT have to be a member of WDA to enter a WDA trial.

Here is the thread:

http://www.gsdworld.net/invboard/index.php?showtopic=21849&st=30

Since USA holds the majority of trials in this country, plus they are members of AWDF, so there is also access to their member clubs trials, coupled with the fact that you don't have to be a member of WDA to trial at WDA trials, it seems like continuing my USA membership is the most logical and beneficial, at least for me.

by GSDPACK on 26 April 2011 - 05:04

I trialed in Nationals and I was not a member of a club... ahhhh confused here, but I am a member of UScA so maybe that is enough. Who knows. I just take a dog and trial.. If the title is not good I trial somewhere else untill I get the tite recognized.lol

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