Which sire and dam will create larger/darker puppies. - Page 2

Chunklake, I'm sure other posts here have given you something to think about and although some of it comes across rather harshly, the advice is well meaning and truthfully it comes from people who truly love German Shepherds. There are far too many GSDs in shelters, being euthanized because of ignorant owners.

That said, I think most people want a dog that they think is attractive.  My advice is to try and find a dog that is the right "whole" dog for you and please know there will likely be some compromises. Health should absolutely be no. 1. Have the parents been screened for the typical health issues that GSDs have? There are is a long list of GSD health issues, but only certain health issues can be tested for at the earliest desirable breeding age (2 years): HD, ED, DM, CERF and cardiac. Other health issues simply surface at an early age, such as allergies, digestive sensitivities and epilepsy. Other health issues surface later on, such as EPI, arthritis...and the list goes on. Health issues can be heartwrenching and VERY costly.

Secondly, what type of energy level do you want your dog to have? Do you plan on getting involved in a dog sport or is your dog going to simply be a companion pet? If you are going to get a high energy, high drive dog, be prepared to be a VERY active dog owner who MUST give the dog a job. It sounds like you have a very busy life already and truthfully I question whether or not you will have time for any puppy, but that is not for me to say. Do you have someone who can let the pup out and walk it during the day, for the first year or so while you're at work? Be ready to devote a lot of time before work and after work to your pup, no matter what the energy level may be. 

Another word of advice: Make sure you get your puppy from a breeder who tries to match the puppies with the appropriate owners and seems extremely concerned about the future of the pups. Also, remember this pup that you will be purchasing is a living, breathing being that you will be taking care of for the next 12-14 years, who soley depends on YOU for all its needs and should NEVER be considered as something that is disposable.

I wish the best for you, but for the sake of the pup that you may purchase, please do your homework and get the right pup at the right time.  

The best,
Char

Hi guys, sorry for the late reply, I have been at work. I don't take offence to any of the posts stated, I know that the MAJORITY of them are trying to be helpful, rather than insulting. Like I said I have been researching this breed for the last 3 years, and all dogs I have mentioned, have been given a Breed Class Survery 1, by the German Shepherd Dog Council of Australia, and they have passed all health tests (including the hip and elbow process). I definitely do agree that health and temperament are more important than looks, but the two kennels which I am considering are very well respected kennels, which have been breeding GSDs for over 30 years. I had other kennels in mind, but didn't go further with them, because of their health issues. These two kennels are two of the best around the Sydney area, and all I wanted to know was, which pairing would birth bigger boned pups, and darker pigmentation, as both pairings are very impressive. Like I said before, I don't take any of your posts to heart, and I understand that you are just trying to help.
I hope that clears things up, and I can get more informative posts.
Regards;
Abel.

If it were me, I'd go with the 2nd litter. JMHO

The German Shepherd Dog League will be hosting the GSD National Show in Sydney over the Easter weekend why don't you go and have a look at the puppies that have been produced by those kennels and breeders?
That is where you will gather the best information, speak to stud owners and breeders who have used those studs.

Don't forget to take your camera though.