Von Waldkimmel In Oregon Is TOP Knotch!! - Page 2

Waldhimmel, I don't think anyone is talking bad about you. I can't speak for all, but it sounded like you were honest and up front, and that wasn't your goal in breeding. I knew a family that was all around 5'3. The parents were tiny. They had 4 boys, three were tiny and the forth was over 6' tall. I was just curious about the dog outside of his size. Seemed to be the only thing the OP focused on. Like I said, I'm glad he is happy. Most of what you hear here is complaints.

depends on the build of the dog.  My Eagle was 95 pounds when in working-fit weight, could see every rib.  He could easily have topped over 100 lbs with just a little less work and a little extra weight.  Easily.  He was within the standard, V in conformation, KKl-1 for lifetime shown under at least 6 or 7 different conformation judges.  Huge head and bone unlike most other dogs.  So 100 lbs does not necessarily mean oversize "St Bernard" - big yes, but not necessarily oversize.

 

molly

In the 2nd post, someone needs to read the OP again.  It is pretty clear the OP stated more things they liked then just the size of the dog.  Sometiimes flaming is just too much fun I guess.

Molly, my "St. Bernard" remark was joking with Bundishep that stated NO top notch breeder breeds 100lb dogs. Was just making light of the omission of "gsd" in the statement.

BUNDISHEP, you are advertising a litter on here from a bitch that was bred when she was only 15 1/2 months old and doesn't have her hips done and YOU'RE questioning the ethics of another breeder? 

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/classifieds/115095.html 

 Jdawg, congratulations on finally getting your GSD.  I felt bad that you lost all that money to a scammer.  I am getting my Von Waldhimmel pup on Monday and just as excited.  Mary is a great breeder and I know that I will be more than happy with my choice!

Don, just what in the hell is wrong with being 5' 3"????? grrrrr!!!

Ramgsd you need to get your facts straight,,the breeder has said she doesnt try to breed oversized dogs and its true one can pop up in a litter now and then,i dont know her and i would think her goals are to try to produce a proper sized dog if she is involved with the proper working weight aspect of the breed and it sounds like she is,a too heavy dog is not the best for working period.there are always going to be 2 camps thoses that target proper size and thoughs that target as big and heavy dog as they can possibly get.

First congrats on the perfect dog. and sorry about scammer. kinda sad how the world is soo money hungry.

 

and btw this thread is about a family that got a dog, but men and women arguring about oversize dogs.

if your dog is oversize are you going to drop it off at the spca. if you are then dont even have a dog. it should be like a child. love it NO MATTER WHAT.

 

and for Waldhimmel::

 

do you know marty from oregon?? he use to have shepherds, but now its into rotti. hes a helper!!

 

and for a big dog being in schz. doesnt matter. a 150lb dog still still get his Bh and Fh.

maybe he cant run as fast, or jump that high. but that donest stop him from trying. my yorkie is 12 lbs. and he always try to jump into my truck. everytime. and he doesnt make it. but he still trys. no matter what kind of dog or breed they will always try to please you.

congrats once again

BUNDISHEP you need to get your facts straight. Once again you will be told that there is NO WEIGHT standard. It is a HEIGHT standard.  Here's a link to the standard for you. I challenge you to show me where it mentions a weight max.  http://www.akc.org/breeds/german_shepherd_dog/

The dog that popped out was too tall for the standard. Not too heavy. That means over 26 inches tall at the shoulder. So you can have a well muscled dog at the top of the HEIGHT standard that will go 95-100 lbs. As with all dogs, if the conformation and nutrition is right this dog will live a long productive life with no ill effects.  Your quote

"i would think her goals are to try to produce a proper sized dog if she is involved with the proper working weight aspect of the breed"      makes no sense.

So what is "the proper working weight aspect of the breed"? Again where is that in the standard? Who sets this up??? You??? Are you going on the misconception that a dog that weighs close to 100 lbs. can't do the work? WRONG. Molly's 24x Sch3 dog proves that. Smaller dogs are faster and easier for soome to handle.  But a large dog within standard can definately do the work and we need more of them out there. Many of the German's have seen this. If the GSD is consistently bred for the medium sized "sport" dog we will end up with smaller and smaller dogs with no dogs out there to breed size back into your lines. Remeber these are supposed to be GSD's not mals.

Would you say this dog is too big because he's the top of the standard and the size I'm talking about.

If you do then perhaps he shouldn't have been a Sch3 1po3 FH1 Kkl1 dog that competed at the BSP.  Get my point?

So learn the standard, train a dog, figure out what FCI hip ratings are and stop breeding 15month old bitches without hip xrays and maybe you'll have something to offer the breed.