The Progressive Birmingham and District GSD Association? - Page 2

United leadership in the UK for GSDs is the single biggest threat to progress.

The thing is Mo that everything is still too fragmented despite the good efforts of the few.  Everyone must support and push together for one theme only.  That would take away much of the confusion.

Mackenzie

I am not hung up on the choice of name. Whether these clubs are called ‘progressive’ or not doesn’t really matter. Nor, if it comes to that, does it matter whether there are clubs which mirror the Birmingham & District Club and other clubs locally or whether there is a national club.

There is one important issue here. Many clubs have or will sign up to this tyrannical KC undertaking. However, almost everyone who takes this breed seriously knows that the only way to make real progress for the breed is under WUSV rules. Therefore a club (or clubs) dedicated to WUSV rules and standards is needed to bring together all the (very many) people who think along the same lines.

Penny is right. Huge progress is being made. The Regional Show to be held on 25th April is evidence of that and massive credit to the organisers of it. But we need an infrastructure of clubs which strive to follow WUSV rules to support these events. Whether we start with one national club or with local clubs and what they are called does not matter greatly in comparison to setting this infrastructure up in the first place.

Agree Peterlee. I just hope the Clubs that do sign remember to implement every aspect of the KC Undertaking they have signed up to. In the past exhibitors have not reported the Double Handlers or the Judges who promote unsoundness etc because they havent wanted to cause trouble for the Club because all Clubs were suffering from the same problem. However, we  are now in a different ball game. Anyone who enters will EXPECT ALL THE KC UNDERTAKING TO BE STRICTLY ADHERED TO. I mean afterall these committee's MUST HAVE BELIEVED the KC were Correct otherwise why sign. Thats fine with me, I respect anyone who signs up to something they believe in and will support them in their right to choose to sign, by the same token I WILL EXPECT the show to be run in ALMOST SILENCE i.e No Double Handling, and for the Club to report any Judge who promotes an unsound animal. I suppose we could be attending quite a few shows where classes are stopped and if double handling continues they will then be suspended, many exhbitors reported for double handling (OF ANY KIND), etc etc. The Gen Secs of these clubs are going to have their work cut out writing the Clubs annual report for the KC , I can foresee some resembling the size of War and Peace and then hoping they have covered everything that 'others' might have informed the KC about.
You wont get any argument from me at all, If you sign up to the Undertaking then you MUST Adhere to every aspect of it. Those are the RULES WE WILL ALL EXPECT TO ENTER YOUR SHOWS UNDER, SO YOU HAD BETER MAKE SURE YOU ARE PREPARED TO UPHOLD THEM. PERSONALLY I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO ATTENDING SHOWS WHERE NO DOUBLE HANDLING OF ANY KIND TAKES PLACE it will make a pleasant change for me to not have to compete with the 'Teams' consisting of younger people able to attract all the way around the ring or sit someone at every corner. Not sure the atmostphere will be as enjoyable, but in keeping with what Brian Wooton believes when he said at the November 09 Open Forum "We dont go to shows to enjoy ourselves!!!"  Well thats what he said and obviously some must agree with him????
Best Regards
Sue

Look on the bright side Sue, we could save a lot of money. We wont need any handlers now, we might as well handle our own, we could take it in turns to take each others dogs along to shows as we wont need to be there as we cant attract them in any way shape or form, in fact if you have a trailer you could take everyone elses dogs and make a few bob!!
Oh what fun, not.....but as you said, "we dont go to shows to enjoy ourselves".

Does anyone know where I can get hold of a copy of the SV constitution (preferably in English)? I think Mackenzie is right and it is time we set up one club along the lines of the SV. People either join it or they don’t but it is time to make a start.

Frankly, I have had enough of waiting. And I can’t honestly say that I have been impressed by the GSDP either. The fact is that the KC has run rings around the GSDP. I am sure it was well intentioned but telling the KC that X number of GSD breeders thought there was a problem of unsoundness with the GSD was mind-blowingly stupid.

Anyway, enough of that. It is water under the bridge. Any help with locating a copy of the SV constitution please?