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by tuffscuffleK9 on 25 January 2010 - 18:01
I'm with Phil. Training then culling the dog regardless of breed until you get the right combo.
Then match dog with clear needs and expectations of the Law Dept. Then most important make sure that the dog will work with the handler (if not get another dog). My living depends on it.
GSD or MALS I really don't care, no more than if its a Marine Scout or Navy Seal. I just want the job done with my team winning every time. My dog needs to be able to Attack, Detect, and Track and lay his/her life down for the handler.
They are A part of THE TEAM - Not a sport dog.
"Don't Tread on Me"
Tuff
Then match dog with clear needs and expectations of the Law Dept. Then most important make sure that the dog will work with the handler (if not get another dog). My living depends on it.
GSD or MALS I really don't care, no more than if its a Marine Scout or Navy Seal. I just want the job done with my team winning every time. My dog needs to be able to Attack, Detect, and Track and lay his/her life down for the handler.
They are A part of THE TEAM - Not a sport dog.
"Don't Tread on Me"
Tuff
by mikey101 on 01 February 2010 - 20:02
well said, phil and tuffs.
by LacyPSA on 11 February 2010 - 03:02
You wan't a good GSDxMal call holland, those guys have their F1's down to a science.

by Slamdunc on 12 February 2010 - 01:02
Scoutgsd,
Phil is actually correct about how rain affects a track.
On a hot humid day a light rain will rehydrate an older track. On the same day a heavy rain will rehydrate the track initially then wash the scent away. Tracks laid in heavy rain will be washed away. I have actually laid and ran tracks that crossed a gutter downspout and watched the dog track down stream where the water was running. I have done tracks in fields with 2" of standing water and watched the dog figure out how to get the scent through the water, which they can. I have run tracks in heavy downpours, 1" of rain in twenty minutes, and the dog was able to do it as I ran the track in the rain. If I waited the scent would have run off and washed away with the water flow. Wind also plays a factor along with temperature and humidity.
We teach all of our Police K9's to footstep track and to air scent. We also do hard surfacing scent discrimination tracking. we will track a particular individual through shopping centers, across 4 lane highways and through neighborhoods. The dogs will switch between air scent and ground scent and follow the strongest scent available. My dog will track through a Wal mart parking lot or a city street with his nose to the ground when he's working a track. It makes it very easy to read when he's on it. He will lift his head and begin to air scent when he gets close to the bad guy.
We caught 4 guys that burglarized a house yesterday. I tracked form the victim's house down the street, around the corner into an apartment complex up to the door. The track was 1 1/2 hours old with 30 to 40 mph winds. The K9 tracking up to the door got a search warrant where we got all 4 guys inside and all of the stolen items were recovered. That is my 3rd good track like that in the past 3 weeks, 8 guys caught and something like 50 felonies or more served resulting from those tracks. Armed robbery, car theft, burglary, larcenies were the bulk of the charges.
Getting back to the original post, there is no need to cross the breeds. Some do it and I've seen some good mixed dogs. I like my GSD and I'll stick with a working line GSD. That is my choice, we have an excellent mali in our unit as well. The next dog for our PD may be a Mali. We will check several vendors, evaluate 15 or 20 dogs and pick the best one, regardless of breed.
JMO,
Jim
Phil is actually correct about how rain affects a track.
On a hot humid day a light rain will rehydrate an older track. On the same day a heavy rain will rehydrate the track initially then wash the scent away. Tracks laid in heavy rain will be washed away. I have actually laid and ran tracks that crossed a gutter downspout and watched the dog track down stream where the water was running. I have done tracks in fields with 2" of standing water and watched the dog figure out how to get the scent through the water, which they can. I have run tracks in heavy downpours, 1" of rain in twenty minutes, and the dog was able to do it as I ran the track in the rain. If I waited the scent would have run off and washed away with the water flow. Wind also plays a factor along with temperature and humidity.
We teach all of our Police K9's to footstep track and to air scent. We also do hard surfacing scent discrimination tracking. we will track a particular individual through shopping centers, across 4 lane highways and through neighborhoods. The dogs will switch between air scent and ground scent and follow the strongest scent available. My dog will track through a Wal mart parking lot or a city street with his nose to the ground when he's working a track. It makes it very easy to read when he's on it. He will lift his head and begin to air scent when he gets close to the bad guy.
We caught 4 guys that burglarized a house yesterday. I tracked form the victim's house down the street, around the corner into an apartment complex up to the door. The track was 1 1/2 hours old with 30 to 40 mph winds. The K9 tracking up to the door got a search warrant where we got all 4 guys inside and all of the stolen items were recovered. That is my 3rd good track like that in the past 3 weeks, 8 guys caught and something like 50 felonies or more served resulting from those tracks. Armed robbery, car theft, burglary, larcenies were the bulk of the charges.
Getting back to the original post, there is no need to cross the breeds. Some do it and I've seen some good mixed dogs. I like my GSD and I'll stick with a working line GSD. That is my choice, we have an excellent mali in our unit as well. The next dog for our PD may be a Mali. We will check several vendors, evaluate 15 or 20 dogs and pick the best one, regardless of breed.
JMO,
Jim
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