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steve1

by steve1 on 28 November 2009 - 08:11

Why is it that just because some people buy a German shepherd dog they think it will automatically protect them and there family, If you want a dog and expect them to do that you need a fully trained dog already and i do not mean in the sport of Schutzund it needs to be trained for that purpose then those type of dogs usually run free out doors guarding premises
To get a dog to do what you require i.e stick up for you then you need a VERY strong BOND to that dog and you need to bring it up as a Puppy, so it grows with the family
I own two German Shepherd Dogs one a Pup, and one 2.5 years old boughtup from 8 weeks old
 The older one has proven he will look after me already and only by accident, People coming to visit and we were in the garden , My Dogs live outdoors and one ran towards me the dog was in his pen but he came to the bars his back went up and he stood there eyes fixed on the Guy and a rumble in his throat as a warning i guess.
 The Guy moved back and the dog relaxed and moved away but kept his eyes on the Guy.
But i do not want my dogs to protect me or i should say i do not expect them to,  IT is for me to protect them from harm and that i would do should the need arise,  But you can never bank on being protected, If you need that sort of protection where you live then the Police are not doing there job or the authorities are not
For you i think you should get a Puppy to grow with your family and bond in a natural way, But do not get any dog just for a reason to be protected, The dog will need as much care as you give your children certainly no less, treat it as part of the family and you may be rewarded, in fact i know you will
and if you get a Puppy you will have plenty of help rearing it correctly if you ask for it on this forum, for there are some very knowledgable Guys on here who will help you all they can
Steve1

DebiSue

by DebiSue on 28 November 2009 - 12:11

Very well said Steve.  I myself have a gun for protection.  My dog is for sport and companionship...or for driving me crazy.

shepherdpal

by shepherdpal on 28 November 2009 - 15:11

What Steve said!!!

by Adi Ibrahimbegovic on 28 November 2009 - 17:11

Yes, it's possible for a sch3 dog to live indoors. Many of them do.

But, just reading your questions and the way your post is worded, maybe not for you. It's a gradual process and it does not happen overnight.

You also, have to PLEASE understand that the dog can love you to death(as a pack member) but may not respect you as a pack leader. There is a big difference there.

If you answer these few, I might have a better understanding here.

1) Have you ever owned a German Shepherd?

2) Have you ever trained a German Shepherd?

3) Have you ever owned and trained a Schutzhund 3 German Shepherd?

4) Are you a male of a female?

5) Are you going to vigorously exercise said dog forat least 2 hours EVERY day, rain or shine?

6) What is your understanding of the way dogs think? Specifically, about pack structure (your family) and how dogs view that?

7) Why specifically do you want aSchutzhund 3 dog? Why notjust A dog? Wy German Shepherd, why not lab? Why not Schutzhund 2 or a Schutzhund 1 dog? Or untrained dog?

There is a lot more questions, but this will do for now.



Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 28 November 2009 - 18:11

" I don't care how often you brush a GSD there is going to be hair...a LOT of hair everywhere."

Whenever someone asks me about the hair, I tell them that my dogs only shed twice a year...for about six months each time. 

snajper69

by snajper69 on 29 November 2009 - 01:11

Bodyguard? I hope you understand that SCHIII dogs are not protection dogs but rather sport dogs? 

Sleep with you? hmmm so who is going be the alpha dog he or you? No dog in mine sleeps with me, I think you need to do more homework before going ahead with your decision. There is a difference between one dog that is SCHIII and other, some maybe extremly pray driven, and dominant than others, the dominant need expxerience handler, someone that is strong enough to assume the role of alpha. Are you surre you that person? No offense bud, but you are not ready, if you have to ask these basic question, step back think, research and than make decision. Hope this helps.

Xeph

by Xeph on 29 November 2009 - 06:11

Sleep with you? hmmm so who is going be the alpha dog he or you?\

Sorry, I must disagree with this.  My dog sleeps in bed with me and he understands the rules perfectly fine.

As for the dog sleeping inside with you, a lot depends on what many other people mentioned.  If you had raised this dog yourself from a puppy I'd say there'd be no issue.


steve1

by steve1 on 29 November 2009 - 07:11

Dogs are for companionship mostly there are not bought into this world to protect the Owner, You folk can have a gun over there to protect you if you feel you need one, I cannot have a Gun and i do not expect my Shepherds to Protect me Why should i risk them first,
 If i am held up at gunpoint then i have little chance and my dogs would have no more chance than me. So where is the Protection,
 If some one comes for me with just the tools he was born with hands and feet,  then i do not have a problem with that at all and  i do not need my dogs to protect me them unless the odds are too great in numbers of people
If you want a Dog to guard your business premises whist you are not there then there are trained dogs for that purpose a Schutzund Dog is not trained for that
I repeat and as Adi says you do not need a German Shepherd Dog, a Lab or such will bark and be a deterrent but please do not get any dog in your home for the wrong reasons for the dog suffers in the end
Steve1





 


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