question about a black puppy - Page 2

So if the mom wash a sable and dad was a sable wouldn't all the puppies be sable or can they still be pure black?
I thought you could only get out what the mom & dad are regardless if there is black further back in their pedigree.

dad is a black with slight bleed thru.  mom was a sable.

you will get what ever is genetically behind them.

Uberland, in oso's post  I believe mom was solid black and dad was sable.  I was referring to oso puppy.  So I guess the puppy could be solid black or very very dark blk sable.  I don't think you get what is behind the parents you get whatever the parents are.

I think if you bred two sables that both had black recessive allele, then you could get black puppies. But two blacks together can only give black? But in this case the mum is black and in her previous litter she was bred to a different sable male and had all black puppies. The owner of the female told me that she had a large litter of 10 but that most of them died in the first couple of days, don't know why. Initially he told me there were 3 surviving puppies, one black, one black-sable and one normal sable. All the ones that died were black. Later the all black one also died and the one we have here is the one he initially thought was a very dark sable but later told me was black. He lives a long way away so I did not see them until this puppy arrived at two months, and he certanly looks black, apart from the markings already described, and they were not very obvious at all when he first arrived. I think to be sable the base of the hairs must be grey or brownish and only the tips black? This puppy has not changed its coat yet, but Uberland does yours have the base of the hairs a different colour or are the hairs all black?

Also, I have never seen a sable with completely black legs and feet?

nope, she was lacquer black up till 2 months ago.  even now, most of her coat is solid black, except for the certain areas.

Could it just be a pigment thing showing the bleed through?

No, I am not sure, I really do not think its a sable, its like Uber Land says, everything is solid black not tipped fur like a sable. But its interesting that the breeder first described this pupy to me over the phone as "black sable", but later told me it was black. When it arrived it certainly looked all black except slightly dark brownish behind the ears, but recently that looks lighter, and the line frm the shoulder blade has appeared too. Otherwise all black.