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by Erikalovesvonlupine on 29 September 2009 - 22:09
Oh thats good. and An interesting idea.
And Denise!!
I guess its not that big of a deal for the AKC.
the only thing i'm worried about is him getting his BH.
i'm also not to worried about him lagging just focusing to that he doesn't try to forge.
Thanks! if you haveanything else let me know.
And Denise!!
I guess its not that big of a deal for the AKC.
the only thing i'm worried about is him getting his BH.
i'm also not to worried about him lagging just focusing to that he doesn't try to forge.
Thanks! if you haveanything else let me know.
by ForFoxyRoxy on 30 September 2009 - 02:09
Denise,
By chance was that show in Wenatchee, WA?
By chance was that show in Wenatchee, WA?
by jettasmom on 30 September 2009 - 11:09
No, it was not.
Denise
Denise
by steve1 on 30 September 2009 - 13:09
A Dog can only hold focus for a short time, they are not robots to do as we wish for ever and a day.
Short training sessions of focus and thats it Stop before the dog loses focus and becomes bored, once you stop then let the dog relax and play
Steve
Short training sessions of focus and thats it Stop before the dog loses focus and becomes bored, once you stop then let the dog relax and play
Steve
by LynOD on 30 September 2009 - 16:09
Focus has alot to do with drive. If you have a high drive dog they tend to be more intense and focused. A medium drive dog will require much more work to get focus. I have one dog who never takes her eyes off me when working is always up and can work for long periods of time without tiring. My other dog is a medium drive dog shorter sessions work best for him and I have to put out alot of energy when working him the more I put in the more he gives back.
You must learn to be more fun and interesting than anything else around them. I also teach them very early on you are not going there you here with me so you may as well watch me! If my dog looks away during training I will do something to let them know that I want their attention on me, i.e. give them a pinch in the but and when they turn around and attend back up and take out their ball and play tug or give a cookie or I may run in the opposite direction of where they decided to look and when they come get me I say hey where you go? My dog learns always watch me because you may miss something. I.e on a stand for exam when I leave them they watch me to see what will happen, will I crouch and throw their ball? Will I toss them a treat?? or will a return to them then do something. I will also tease them like start to fake crouching by hesitating but dont' actually do it and just say you watchin?? Then if they are I may do the game.
Best of luck to you in the OB ring.
You must learn to be more fun and interesting than anything else around them. I also teach them very early on you are not going there you here with me so you may as well watch me! If my dog looks away during training I will do something to let them know that I want their attention on me, i.e. give them a pinch in the but and when they turn around and attend back up and take out their ball and play tug or give a cookie or I may run in the opposite direction of where they decided to look and when they come get me I say hey where you go? My dog learns always watch me because you may miss something. I.e on a stand for exam when I leave them they watch me to see what will happen, will I crouch and throw their ball? Will I toss them a treat?? or will a return to them then do something. I will also tease them like start to fake crouching by hesitating but dont' actually do it and just say you watchin?? Then if they are I may do the game.
Best of luck to you in the OB ring.
by steve1 on 30 September 2009 - 21:09
A dog in a ScH competition let us say Obed, has to stay focused for about ten minutes of working, You would not expect it to have the same focus for 30 minutes or more, it is not normal,
When anyone trains there dog on a work field in a Sch Training session the time limit a handler works is no more than 15 minutes, and in between that time the dog is given the ball or whatever it likes to build up its drive several times,
The long down is again for about ten minutes whist another dog is working, but the dog on the down does not have the same focus as when it is working,
If you have a Puppy and you are starting it the focus will be short, and better kept short because you need to stop before the Pup loses interest, then you play with a ball or treats whatever the pup likes
My 4.5 month old Pup Izzy, is walking by my side with a loose leash now, at this time i do not need to get her to focus on me when i say walking with a loose leash i mean around the country roads etc near the house never in the house garden
I will not get her focused on me when walking at home only on the training field will she be taught to do that, but not yet at her age it is not needed,
Why only on the training field ,because if you do it at home the dog will think its training time, and when you go to the training ground the dog will think it playtime
Meaning only serious work is done at the training club But the teaching of walking correctly on a loose leash which is the very basics is done on home territory
Steve
When anyone trains there dog on a work field in a Sch Training session the time limit a handler works is no more than 15 minutes, and in between that time the dog is given the ball or whatever it likes to build up its drive several times,
The long down is again for about ten minutes whist another dog is working, but the dog on the down does not have the same focus as when it is working,
If you have a Puppy and you are starting it the focus will be short, and better kept short because you need to stop before the Pup loses interest, then you play with a ball or treats whatever the pup likes
My 4.5 month old Pup Izzy, is walking by my side with a loose leash now, at this time i do not need to get her to focus on me when i say walking with a loose leash i mean around the country roads etc near the house never in the house garden
I will not get her focused on me when walking at home only on the training field will she be taught to do that, but not yet at her age it is not needed,
Why only on the training field ,because if you do it at home the dog will think its training time, and when you go to the training ground the dog will think it playtime
Meaning only serious work is done at the training club But the teaching of walking correctly on a loose leash which is the very basics is done on home territory
Steve
by LynOD on 01 October 2009 - 18:10
I agree with you steve. I teach my dogs a stay with me command for walking. They must stay by me not in heal position but loose leash or around me when off leash. They do not have to look at me. When I say get close (heal) then they know it is time to work. Training sessions should always be kept short with puppies.
It sounds like Erika's dog is beyond puppy though as he is already competing. Erika you say he has good ball drive, This is what you should use to train focus. He gets rewarded with ball for watching. Play tug and lots of it. Make yourself valuable to him. You need to break it down as with many other skills. First watch sitting still in heal position, then you move to the front of him train the watch, then add movement. If the dog drops his head/eyes stop moving regain attention move again then rewrd attention if you have it. Only move when you have attention.
It sounds like Erika's dog is beyond puppy though as he is already competing. Erika you say he has good ball drive, This is what you should use to train focus. He gets rewarded with ball for watching. Play tug and lots of it. Make yourself valuable to him. You need to break it down as with many other skills. First watch sitting still in heal position, then you move to the front of him train the watch, then add movement. If the dog drops his head/eyes stop moving regain attention move again then rewrd attention if you have it. Only move when you have attention.
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