Transport to/from Europe - Page 2

Transport dogs ie customer dogs cannot tell you when a siezure is coming and you are abusing the system.

Keep in mind, these people did not speak English.  They failed to understand that the law prevents them from FORCING a disabled person to "SIT AT THE BACK OF BUS".

They were fined and reprimanded by the FAA for that incident, and were required to issue a policy, and make sure that proper training was in place as a result.

SO, other than that, and the fact that I simply do not fly Alitalia again, what's the problem?  That is the only real problem that I have had flying in years.

Notice that the trip over with Alitalia was fine.  Why?  The crew was american.  They spoke english and understood the law.  The flight back, the crew was Italian and english was not their first language, and again, complaints were filed, not only by me, but by other people on the flight, and the issue was resolved.

Want to try again?

Once again, I don't have to have a seizure alert dog.  Can you simply not read the rules regarding an ESA and flying?  That can be any dog.  I also need a balance dog, a dog to retrieve and a dog to pull a wheelchair.  A dog trained in Sch. can do simple balance work.

AN ESA DOES NOT EVEN HAVE TO BE TRAINED TO GO ON THE FLIGHT.  Get it yet?  Jesus.  Read for once, and get your panties out of a knot. 

If you don't know the law, don't spout.  And, you don't.  ESA's do NOT HAVE TO BE TASK TRAINED TO FLY ON A PLANE.  Do they have to be "well behaved"?  Yes.  Do they have to be housetrained?  Yes.  Do they have to alert to seizures?  NO.  Do they have to retrieve dropped objects?  NO.  Do they have to pull a wheelchair?  NO.

If a dog can do brace work, it can work as my seizure.  What does brace work mean for me?  Walking my by side, and allowing me to fingertip touch their withers.  Light touch.  That's it.  If, need be, and they can do a stand stay, even better, as I don't need much to balance if I fall.  Again, Simply fingertip touch.

Have you ever witnessed a balance/brace dog at work?  Have you ever trained one?  Obviously not, or you would know what is required, and how, any breed, whose height is enough for my short heiney to reach their withers, and is obedience trained will work.

Since Brace work is required for my disability, among other things, then it qualifies as a service dog in the moment.  Period.

I can go to Europe, purchase a trained dog, and that dog, if he is obedience trained, can automatically be my service dog.  Period.  That is all they have to be, is trained in obedience.  Why?  Because the task of doing a stand stay is not normal to the dog.  It is a trained thing, that can then mitigate my disability.

As to seizure alerting:  Dogs are not "trained" to do this.  IF they do it naturally, you reward and reinforce the behavior.  Hence, there is a great chance that my next dog will not be an alert dog. So be it.  However, if they can do brace work, and at some point, learn to retrieve, and pull a wheelchair, then they are my service dog, and I am simply adding tasks. 

Get it?  Or are you too hardheaded to admit that you know nothing of the original issues ESA's?

Not really, I have stated my opinions and read all your blogs and web info. Kudos on being handicapped enough to require wheel chair and siezure dog and being able to still ride a 17 hand horse through Rome unassisted, without a safty harness and or helmet in case you seize in the saddle leaveing the dog at where you were staying, and dive in the ocean which is dangerous enough with a physically fit human. I grew up on the ocean and miss it. Anyone else considering to do this business with you can look you up like I did. They can make a choice to hire you. They can look up the other information I found as well dealing with the rescue and the warehouse of dogs and make an informed desicion with the same info I found within minutes.

     What you describe as your medical issues you require a service dog not the other. You are taking advantage of the airlines and making it bad for those of us that DO follow the rules and take having medical issues requiring use of a dog seriously.

   I seriously hope you are only selling dogs that can really do the work and that someone does not get hurt or killed.


          I have said it before and I will say it again that use of and selling of service dogs needs a government testing and permitting proceedure.

LOl.  So disabled people are not allowed to dive, compete in martial arts, climb mountains, ride horses?  Wow....that is really discriminatory of you.

I don't require a wheelchair 100% of the time.  I grew up training horses, and have trained well over 1000 of them over the years.  I have taken horses on long, long range endurance rides. 

My diving is not your concern.  I am a certified DM, normoxic trimix, and my deepest dive has been to 220ft.  Lowrance.  Did it well, passed all my tests with flying colors. 

I will share my opinion:  You are an idiot.  Period.  Disabled people who have the drive and desire to try, deserve to. What gives you the "right" to dictate that I wear head gear?  That I wear a harness?  Most disable paras, who ride, by the way, don't like to use a harness.  I know a para who scuba dives, hunts(her service dog retrieves her rabbits and squirrels to hand), drives a 4 wheeler, rides horses(By herself, and gee, she even saddles her own horse....wow, whodda thunk it?), and does it, gasp, alone.  All by herself.  BTW, I am also a solo diver, love to jump out of perfectly good airplanes, and never come home with less than a 1st when competing in Karate tournaments.  Gee.....Wow....And, I even get to drive....Wow....Gee....But, you, act as tho, those are sins, and maybe all people with disabilities, according to you should be killed?  That is the impression that you give.

And, btw, I agree.  Service dogs should have neutral third party testing.  I have had guide dogs and cci dogs that can't pass my service dog test.

But, am I going to tell someone that they can't do something?  Nope.  And, service dogs don't have to be with you 24/7.  I do leave mine at home sometimes.  Sometimes I don't want to deal with obviously stupid people....kinda like you.

I am truly amazed at your idiocy regarding this. 

Warehousing?  Why is that any different than a kennel?  My facility is airconditioned, and I live above it.  What is the problem?

Yes, I need a wheelchair at times.  There are times I can go 6 months without it.  I have MS.  Sometimes it flares up, sometimes it doesn't.  Get it?  Or can you see my MRI's in your mind?  Are you telepathic?  Nope, just stupid.

Wow....Amazing.  And, to boot, you can't even read, can you?  LOL

You appearently did not read that I myself use a service dog. If anyone is interested in what info is here versus found online they can do it for themselves. Many here use service dogs. Many here are knowledgable medical people and dog people. They do not lack intelligence.  I am not going to argue with you and I have stated my position on getting PAID to use your service dog vests as yes that is what your vests on your site are to transport dogs for money. It is wrong when someone does it to go to shows and IMO what "service" you are offering is wrong. Call me whatever names you wish to try to distract from my objection to your original post. I have not called you anything or discriminated against your disability. You have NO CLUE what my background, experience, nor what my medical condition is. 

        Have a nice evening.

    

And, again, you obviously didn't read the part about ESA's.  You obviously don't understand ESA's.  Yep, I know you use a SD.  Good for you.  Well, you are a bit chicken about using it, but hey....being ashamed of your disability is your hang up, not mine.

Most dogs will go in cargo.  A select one or two might get to fly in cabin, if it is highly trained enough to work as an ESA. 

BTW, My ESA's that I train for other people, have 3 times more training time(IE, hours) than ADI recommends(but, then I think ADI's min. standards are a joke).

My SD's, have over 600 hours of training on them prior to placement.  I will not place a GSD.  I generally won't place a Rottie.  I will place a nice Dobie, Golden, Lab, Poodle, gasp---even a nice labradoodle.  I refuse to use shelter dogs(you don't really know all their background and you can't really test for everything....Old spice.....guy beat up dog who wore old spice....how do you test for that?)  I prefer labs, and going a step further, yellow labs. 

FOr some really educational information on SD's, check out WWW.Servicedogcentral.org.

And, you know nothing of me.  I have repeat service dog clients, I have service dog clients worldwide.  I would put my sd's against anyone's dog.  Period.  Mine are better(Ok, so I am a bit prejudiced).  I am, truthfully, tired of PWD(People with disabilities) thinking that they should be given service dogs.  I am too the point that I am simply going to start producing one or two generic service dogs per years(Mobility tasks), and selling them for 10,000.00.  I am going to give a video of the training, and the person is on their own.  I don't care who buys the dog----kinda like pretty much anyone can go buy a SCHIII GSD, if they have the right amount of money. 

I am finding that people don't want to pay for a dog.  At 600 hours MINIMUM, and hip/elbow/eyes/cardiac/thyroid, buying the dog in the first place, shipping the dog to me to train, paying two private trainers to evaluate the dog when finished, spending 80+ hours in team training...food, bathing, general care of the dog...I think it amounts to abut $3.00 an hour.  I will still do outside evaluations(and, again, my cert test makes ADI's look like the joke that it is.). 

So, if someone just wants a dog who will go get a beer for him out of the fridge, during a football game, and he wants the dog to hang out at the local bar with him(outside) and he doesn't mind paying 10,000.00 for the dog, fine.  Otherwise, if I get "stuck" with a dog, then I will donate it to another organization----I have about three that I work with. 

BTW, I have trained over 5000 dogs, in 30 yrs.  I have trained and successfully placed or supervised the training of over 200 service dogs in 15 yrs.  I did consulting work with the MIlitary back in the 90's when they had military inmates at Ft. Knox and Ft. Leavenworth training service dogs for disabled vets and exceptional family members....Something many conviently forget(about that program), when they try to say that they are the "first" to provide service dogs to military vets, etc....

I am very much against a certian psychiatric service dog cult that seems to think that a 'feel good" dog is a service dog.  Which is why I recommend people to ServiceDogCentral.  That group is realistic.

If you want to see some of my dogs in action, I have videos of them. and you are free to speak to clients.

Again, my ESA's are better trained than most SD's that you see on the streets.....

It is slightly different for me to take and use a dog as a service dog that I