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by Preston on 21 July 2011 - 06:07

Slamdunce, or so you say.  No reason to insult each other, I thought that was against the rules here.  Now so far you haven't been willing or able (and it could be that you are not able to comprehend) these actual govt doc that I have supplied access to (Operation Northwoods, the Finders, or MK Ultra).   I may provide even more, a batch called the family jewels which are now declassified, except for some redactions.  I am now assuming that you are trying to engage in a P***ing match, that you are just obstiantely committed to the reality as defined by the "system" or PTB, or that you are working for somebody, trying to spread msinformation, confusion to suppress of detract from the truth. By the way, you will lose any of these arguments since you are unlikely to have access to the same credible databases that I may have access to. Most of the hard work has been done by a cast of experts, I just replay it. 

You have not commented on the massive evidence proving MKultra, Govt complicity in large scale illegal narcotic tyrafficking into the USA, the training, support and arming of the cartels, and the militarization of the police.  On the other hand I have present access to real govt docs, good references, interviews from experts.  There is now a massive amount of open source info, never before available.  Ops are leaking infotrmation like never before and it gets instant distribution thanks to the internet. You refuse to accept any truth I have presented and have not disproven any of these claims including those of Steve Pieczenik MD, Ph.D or Major General Albert "Bert" Stubbelbine who both made numerous public statements that the 911 attacks were a false flag/ stand-down attack done by our USAF, that is a govt inside job.  Sorry, but you are complete outclassed here and your arguments have the no substance or traction at all.  Now if anybody else agrees or diasgrees with the experts and docs I have presented on these matters and nothing else, please post why or why not.  So far several habitually challenge me for the most part on meaningless grounds.  The only one of the four that disagrees so far with any real horsepower and credibility at all is Mudwick, who does have a fairly good knowledge base and whom I have to agree with at least 1/2 of the time.

by Preston on 21 July 2011 - 06:07

Want to know the truth about the border. Call up one of these sheriffs or their assistants and ask them.  They will tell you the truth.  How the US Govt is suing them on behalf of Mexican Govt for enforcing the immigration laws. Can you say sedition and treason.  Slamdunc, you can do this.  See how funny they think this situation is down there or how well they think the US Govt is handling border incursions. 
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/01/exclusive-federal-agents-told-reduce-border-arrests-arizona-sheriff-says/ 

Both these Sheriffs are straight talking, standup men of very high integrity.  Their story needs to be told.

http://www.bordersheriffs.com/ 

http://www.sofmag.com/arizonas-border-sheriffs-need-your-support 


Have the courage to learn and face the truth about Govt corruption and lies in DC in homeland security.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/flashback-napolitano-called-state-emerge






 

Bhaugh

by Bhaugh on 22 July 2011 - 18:07

Preston how far are you from the border?

Bhaugh

by Bhaugh on 22 July 2011 - 18:07

Gee if we close the border, Walmart will go out of business. What a shame

I wouldn't visit Mexico now if you paid me. Hmmm with all the illegals where I live, I can feel like I'm in Mexico every single day. So I guess I don't need to. Now all I need is small plastic pool and I can feel like Im at the beach. I already have the tequila.

If anyone thinks that the cartel "can be eliminated" needs their head examined.

by Preston on 23 July 2011 - 05:07

Well Baugh, perhaps a good start would be for the US Govt and Intel to stop training, arming and financing the mexican cartels (ie stop secret illegal programs like operation Fast & Furious and operation Gunwalker).  Then for our intel to stop protecting and sharing in their drug trafficking into the USA.  Then also, perhaps sealing the border and granting temporary work permits to those with clean records after being fingerprinted and checked against criminal databases such as NCIC.  Many business want mexican laborers and certainly some are wiling to take jobs most Americans can't or won't such as working crops, harvesting, etc.  Certainly a controlled nyumber of work temporary permits could be issued for those who have clean records and want to work in the USA honestly.

Bhaugh

by Bhaugh on 23 July 2011 - 17:07

You didnt answer my question Preston.

by Preston on 24 July 2011 - 21:07

Slamdunc, forget what I have said.  It is unimportant.  What is important are the documents and expert disclosures that I have referenced.  Any arguments you have with the facts and positions they have expressed publicly are what is important. The facts about the breakdown of the border cities are available and discouraging.

You are smart enough to know this and I must assume you are playing games since all you have done is focus on the messenger in a thinly disguised effort to mock or dicredit me.  But you carefully avoid all docs, experts and important references I provide.

So whatever the reason you have refused to even look and do the basic reserach as is your right.  And yet even though it is technically an abridge to the TOS you persist in trying to demean me the messenger. 

But hey, if that is your stick, enjoy it.  Just keep avoiding, laughing and mocking while the off shore corps and banksters finish their asset stripping and we all end up in the street with no jobs, no food, no country, living in a nazified police state run by foreign mjtf type troops.  You see, our great Republic is nearly gone, and it is technically bankrupt according to Rep. Ron Paul and many other pols and economists.  And yet, even though we can't afford it we are now fighting six undeclared, unprovoked, unConstitutional wars.  And the money to do so is being borrowed from the fed res and the Chinese, and other countries.

Interesting how folks who work for the Govt get this "I'm entitled" attitude toward the taxpayer's tax money.  They forget that they work for the people and are expected to protect and serve the people with a service oriented attitude of appreciation for their opportunity, pay and benefits.  They expect a great retirement plan, with generous pay and a secure job and many develop an "authoritarian attitude" viewing themselves above the people in the community. This is a mistake and a hard fall is likely coming.  Sad thing is in the next year or two, a large proportion of police, fire, teachers, bureacrats, govt workers at all levels will be laid off and most will lose all their retirement benefits.  In some large American cities, the police depts have alread laid off 30-40% of their force and their pension funds are heading for bust very rapidly. Right now almost every major state and large city is in severe trouble financially and near technical bankruptcy. But don't believe me do your own research.  Stay tuned, you may catch on when reality eventually hits and sinks in.  Cheers.


by bazza on 24 July 2011 - 22:07

Yawn, yawn, yawn, bored shitless now, off to bed. Nighty night, lol.

by Preston on 24 July 2011 - 22:07

Baugh, far enough to avoid drug mules on foot or cartel patrol jeeps and boats.





 


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