Stud fee? - Page 2

Buyers of your pups will unlikely be able to individually register them with USCA if either one or both of the parents are underage at the time of conception.

It's interesting that the dam of your pup appears to have been under age, untitled, and too young for OFA when she was bred.

Dear Uli, I put 00 behind my name because it is my lucky number. Mosemancr, asked a simple question about stud fee's only to be bomarded by question about his dogs lines, titles etc.. A simple question, that was it. He didnt ask if his dog should be bred, he didnt ask the opinion of all the experts on this board on his dogs worthyness, only what stud fee's go for. Who's to say the owner of the bitch doesnt see something specific in his dog that would benefit his breeding program. Maybe his dog is has something to offer. I could understand if someone said "hey Mosemancr, the typuical stud fee starts at $400 and goes up, ive bred a lot of litters and have a good bit of experience. What exactly is the owner trying to accomplish." But i cant understand (well actually i do) why someone would just rattle off a survey for the man to take as if they were an expert on breeding. All too often on this board simple questions are met by criticism and passive agressive monologues from some people that have no idea what they are talking about (while others do have a great deal of knowledge or at least enjoy discussing theory, im in the latter). In my limited experience in schutzhund but vast experience in life ive found that the those that are truly the best and EXPERTS in something tend to say "WHY THATS ITNERESTING, WHY HAVE YOU CHOSEN TO GO THAT ROUTE" or in other words tell me what youre thinking, how you came to this point or process. While those that wont to be seen as experts IMMEDIATELY TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE THINKING.

I do not like to reply to idiots but I will make this my last go of it. Here we go again with Mr. WScott00 who has taken dogs to national events and it gives him experience on how to breed? Just because a dog has a penis and a female has a hole does not make either of them a breeding dog. Oh, but I forgot you advertise your dog as a top stud when he has neither a breed survey, a show rating or nerve base. This is the very reason there are so many dogs put down or end up in animal shelters, because we have guys like WScott00 who compete at national levels, and has publicly stated that he tortures and beats his own dogs, giving advice on which dogs should be bred. This guy has no knowledge on breeding and should not be giving any advice on breeding dogs. There has been great advice given by others on this topic, and I would take their advice and not breed these two dogs mosemancr.

****Make sure the female is tested prior to breeding for Burcellois to protect your male.****** Oh ya'll better ask for more than that!!! if a stud dog owner ONLY asks for Brucella then i would NOT go to that male because most likely he has only asked other bitches for that... YOU MUST request VC/BC Mycoplasma/Ureaplasma on bitches with conception problems or someone you REALLY do not know... there is supposed to be a normal amount of Mycoplasma in the flora of the bitch but its up to the stud dog if they want that in their backyard! the VC vaginal culture will show other organisms that may or may not supposed to be there in what levels... Mycoplasma is very bad!!! I had a female purchased from Canada that was filled with it and had repro issues and lost a litter secondary to it.. very high in canada and its in the states too... also, antibiotics as preventative measures to NOT do a VC is crazy... that can contribute to other issues that bitch owners do not want!!

Prok9 I do not breed, therefore i do not speak as an expert on the topic, just like you dont train, therefore should not speak no the subject. As for "here we go again".... you never replied to my last post. I WILL GIVE YOU OR DONATE $1000 TO THE CHARITY OF YOUR CHOICE IF YOU SHOW AND THE USA NATIONALS AND BEAT ME AND MY NERVE BAG DOG. but still doubt you've reached the point of trying to be half the man/breeder/trainer you try so hard to convince everyone you are. All you gotta do is say "give me the money" ive never said my dog was a top stud, only listed his charaterstics, pedigree, and video of his work www.putfile.com/wscott00. I think my dog has very nice drives, and im interested in to see if he passes it to his progeny. the orgianl post was about stud fees. Alabamak9, who does breed gave her opinion on fee's and a litle advice on thins to look for and consider. But did not make herself to be an authority on the topic. i dont breed amd you dont train or show, so lets agree to stick to posting about things we have actual knowledge of. PS i hadnt planned on showing at the nationals, but a more than willing to show if youre gonna be there....man up at least once in your life

Walter, I agree with you and there is no reason why someone needs to answer to anyone if they want to breed their dog. They want to fuss at someone who asks a question and offer no help or support only to attack the person their dog and motives. this site is not used for information sharing but a shark tank. Krougar, Thanks for the Euro break down just like I stated more than our american dollar and as far as the stud dog owner has no expenses this is news to me. My trip to the airport is 5 hours one way a round trip of 10 hours x two. I rarely breed my neighbors dog and have had only one local Alabama dog brought tome to date. The care and feeding of the female for the week she is usually here as well, not to mention in the event a P. level is needed another trip to the vet. The stud fee I charge is 1,000 and less than the average price of what my dogs puppies sell for at 2,000 a puppy. If you paid 10 dollars to breed a dog in Europe the shipping would run for a 500 crate around 700.00 dollars one way. Yes more expenses raising a litter and compared to 1,000 I charge for stud and the dam owner with a litter of eight selling at even 1,500 per pup would be 12,000 so I am sure some money would be left for the dam owner. I know no one with a expensive dog who every re-cooped the money for his purchase. He was purchase to improve my breeding program not as a money maker for sure. Britany, Are your dogs titled, are you the breed warden for your club. Give us some advice, come on you are the queen of know it all. What I see is post after post jumping on people making them appear less then you. Who are you what is your background I would love to know. If you could not say something ugly we would not see any posts from you at all. Mosemanor, Not every dog needs to have all the titles before breeding and I am sure if someone wanted to use him he is a nice dog. Look at the two dogs who are being bred my best bitch at this kennel is untitled because I had no trainer and do not train. I would put her above some Sch3 dogs I have anyday. I would suggest a prelim at least before breeding him and the tests to protect your male. It is your dog no one on this board paid for him you do what you want to do. I hope the majority of the posters helped answer some questions you may have had if you need any advice email me personally and I will try and help answer what I can.

wscott00, you’ve quoted “Dont worry about is his titles, scores, lines, etc... this one litter will neither damn nor save the GSD breed. “ You’ve just showed your professionalism. Comments like this are dangerous for the breed. When the last time you step inside a GSD is rescue or better off Pound/shelters? Comments like this will bring more people into breeding their crappy dogs with other crappy dogs (Not trying to say that Mosemancr ‘s dog is crappy, just would like to know HOW good he is and if he’s good enough to be bred)… It’s obvious that you’re going to make some crappy dogs from the breeding. Breeding is NOT a right but a privilege. Dogs should be considered proven with working titles/show titles before even allow to breed. Oskar1 and prok9s I give you guys 2 thumbs up! Alabamak9, Both of my dogs have their BHs. Yes I consider it a title because I’ve busted my ass for the title! If people wouldn’t send their dogs off to get titled (Or buy their dogs already titled)… they would have more respect for the BH. No I’m not a breed warden for my club (My club is a Schutzhund club, not a conformation club). What’s with the sarcastic remarks? I certainly remember feeling sorry for you when everybody was jumping all over you, you then weep and cry over the private emails to me.. Is this your way of making friends here? Are you known to be a backstabber? Just be honest with yourself. The last thing you need is to bash the ones who backed you up in rough times.

I call it like it is not everyone could please or measure up to the critical eyes of this board. What amazes me is no one on this board including me is a famous trainer or breeder or expert in any dog related field. How the thread simply ask how do stud fees usually work, got to your dog is no good, you do not know anything. You are this and that is stupid. Applaud someone who uses penis and hole in graphic terms and on and on. I happen to know some people here and am getting a negative feel for others based on their posts that I have never met. Walter Scott is a good trainer and handler who loves his dog and is helpful to everyone as I have observed him on numerous occasions. He took a female back to North Carolina for me when he was at this years ADWF to save the owner and myself driving. He is a gracious person and family man who puts his heart and soul in to his dog. No one deserves the stuff going on here. As far as a backstabber that would not be me. I appreciate any support I was given but if you were on my side or the bashers side that does not make me blind to the posts here today.

Brittany Im a bit perplexed, on the hand i assume youre abreeder of 20 plus yrs who adheres to the strickest of standards, while on the other hand i noticed that you hang your hat on the fact that your dogs have thier BH. which tells me youre brand new to the sport. On one hand you say "Dogs should be considered proven with working titles/show titles before even allow to breed." but on the other hand you say a BH is a real title, if we're gonna use titles and titles only to breed, we've gotta admit that in the grand scheme of things a BH isnt a title. it niether test the dogs courage, drives, nerves or ability to handle stress. (im not taking away anything from those w/ their BH, rather pointing out if only titles are to be used for breeding a BH says virtually nothing in the big picture) so according to your theory i would assume that dogs who win national and international event should be bred over those that came in 20th, making the BH nothing more than a glorified CD or certificate of completion from PetsMart. Which is it????? as for my professionalism, i think i have plenty of it. Im a mortgage broker by profession and trainer by desire, not a breeder I can only assume that you are the univiersal breed warden/saviour of the GSD by profession. based on your comments to Mosemancr you must have great passion for the breed and feel obligated to look down on the rest of us from your self appointed post of Lord of the GSD...It must be good to be king. The man simply asked about stud fee's and you come down from on high w/ your survey ranting and raving about titles, lines etc... he didnt ask your opinion if his dog should be bred, or what you thought of his motives, just about stud fee's. rather than answer his question and offering advise you postioned yourself as the expert on the topic and moral leader of the GSD. Alabamak9 is right, no one here is a world class breeder or trainer, we all just love the GSD, I try to never portrayed myself as an expert, just a guy who likes training his dog and is trying to figure the whole thing out. It would be nice if we could get back to dicussing training and breeding expereinces and theory and get away from all the posturing and self promotion