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Kimmelot

by Kimmelot on 21 November 2010 - 02:11

I guarantee my puppies, or dogs that I sell, and I just tell people that I MUST know where my puppies are being placed if they cannot keep them. I prefer to be the first one to know that the dog is about to be homeless or unwanted, and if its an adult dog that I placed it MUST come back to me. Why would I not want to know that my dog is unwanted? I love my dogs. I would never spend years with my dogs, loving them, and give them to another home- just to let them decide they dont want my dog after a year and either give it to a friend of a friend and that friend dumps my dog, or they take my old dog to the pound to be put down or whatever. Dogs are Not cars, trasfering ownership does not take the responciblity off the breeder anyways ( or past owner).

Something bad like this happend to me, where an Parol officer took a dog of mine that was 6 years old. (BTW She lives in Sacromento and I would be happy to warn anyone of this woman). 2 Weeks after having the dog at her house the dog growled at the husband ( who knows why) and the woman just decided to drop her off at the Sacromento Animal Control- and they had her in the Vicious Doig ward because they said she was growling. THANK GOD they asked where she had gotten the dog. The AC googled our kennel name and called me. I drove 2 hours and picked her up. My dog would have been put to sleep within days.. that BIT&H didnt even call me!! I was in contact with her the first week and all was well. You would think that a person of the law would have more common sense, and the fact that she signed a paper saying she would give her back if it didnt work out , didnt stop her.    My dog was given to a nice family on a farm after all this and she is very happy.
( My dog leaving with the Parole Officer that I spoke with on the phone for several days, seemed like the perfect home, That called me 2 days after taking her telling me what a great dog she was, who after a week was happy, then decided to try to dump her at the shelter not even calling me first- I call her Queen of all Bitches and she lives in Sacromento, CA)

How would you feel if your beloved dog was neglected or killed because she or he was given away to a second hand person ? It bothers me.. I know I am not alone.

Whisper


nonacona60

by nonacona60 on 21 November 2010 - 02:11

Exactly Whisper....thats my point exactly.....Nicely said......

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 21 November 2010 - 02:11

 Wow, lots of negative thinking on a breeder wanting their dogs back if it doesn't work out. Ever occur to anyone that we care? And why is an older dog less important than a pup? Older dogs don't need good homes too? 

I'm buying one of mine back as we speak. Why? Because shit happens and  when it does, I like to help out, both dog and owner. It's not fair for me to just take her back when he could easily sell her and recoup  his investment.  I want her back but I'm no thief. 

Why is it a breeder can do no right no matter what? If we want the dog back and make you sign that we are notified before you rehome or sell the dog, we're greedy control freaks, and if we don't give a damn what happens to the dog when it leaves our home we are still greedy, but now greedy and irresponsible. 



Rik

by Rik on 21 November 2010 - 03:11

Don, I have to agree with you. If someone wants my money more than they want the dog, then don't tell me what to do with the dog after it is mine and they have cashed my check.

These people are looking for "suckers" who will replace their investment and also allow them to direct the future of the dog.

Very good observation.

Rik

Kimmelot

by Kimmelot on 21 November 2010 - 03:11

I think if a breeder doesnt want you to take the dog you raised and sell it to another "sucker" instead of letting the breeder re-sell the dog for you, gee MAYBE its to make sure that dog is going to be used responcibly to improve the gene pool, or maybe the breeder has feelings and want's to know where its puppies are going.

Just because you have a dog and rehome it does not make you Greedy if you want to know what happens in the afterlife. Its greedy if you resell the dog 2xs and keep the money, If you sell the dog and give back most of the money to the person that you first sold the dog too and keep a precentage - because now you have to guarantee the dog ( most states have forced 1 year guarantee's for dogs of all ages sold- lemon laws) - this is not greedy its SMART buisness.

Whisper

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 21 November 2010 - 03:11

 I must really be some kind of freak, I guess, with all the people I turn down or talk out of my dogs, and the dogs I'm going to pretty great lengths to get back so I can try to guarantee that they are properly cared for. 

Who on Earth would have a problem with the breeder buying the dog back when they're in a bind? It's quick, it's easy, they get their money back, the dog is spared from being dumped off on someone unsuitable or a shelter. 

I guess if you breed dogs who would be fine anywhere it doesn't matter as much. But when you breed dogs of a certain temperament and who can possess certain traits that could get them PTS in a heartbeat if in the wrong hands, you do what you can to make sure you know where they are and that they're ok. I guess that's only if you care more about a living breathing being than a check though. 

I see limited reg. being far more of a scam. 

But this negative view on a buyback guarantee at any point in the dog's life is really enlightening. Thanks for bringing it up. It's helping me rapidly expand my "type of person I will not sell a dog to" list. 

Rik

by Rik on 21 November 2010 - 03:11

jenn, nothing wrong with a buy back clause in the contract. I think it is a very good sign of a good breeder.

But, if a breeder chooses not to buy the dog back, then why would they think they have any say in the dog's future from there on.

Rik

Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 21 November 2010 - 03:11

Ok, so as I said, I'm not talking pups. But since your reading comprehensions are so weak, I'll say, why not give the dog to a good handler. I mean, the reason you're getting rid of it can't be because it is less than you desire, so why not give it to an experienced handler for free? Maybe co-ownership? I'm just being honest. If you thought the dog was that great, you probably wouldn't be placing it, and if you just had to, why do you think they would re-home it? It's that good of a dog? I just think it's hypocritical to sell a dog and demand that that person live up to a higher standard. As if they'll strike out on a re-home as easily as you have. Thus requiring a contract that you are in control of a dog that you are no longer in need of.

Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 21 November 2010 - 03:11

Jenn78, I stated in the opening post that this has nothing to do with pups. I understand a breeder telling a buyer to return for a refund. Please go back and read.

k9topnotchkennels

by k9topnotchkennels on 21 November 2010 - 04:11

In Jen's defense she was not trying to scam me or anything like that.  She made it very clear that she just didn't want the dog going to a puppy mill.  I completely understood that and I think that she was more than fair with what she was asking.  I would have had the right to say no to the deal but it was beneficial to us both. 





 


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