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by schzislife on 16 November 2010 - 02:11

Thank you all very much for your replies!

I was looking at getting the molded baseball cleats because they are softer than the soccer and interchangable football cleats.

I do agree Vickie, and its my thoughts exactly that its better to step on a dog accidentally, than fall on the dog from loss of footing or traction. And I have hard that something to be careful of with cleats is the "too much traction". So I understand that is a reason to take it slow until I am used to wearing the cleats.

The reason I was given is "I have seen too many dogs' toes broken because the helper stepped on the dogs feet."

I will ask again, and express my concerns, and that I know the risks, and see what they say.

Thank you all again!

by schzislife on 16 November 2010 - 02:11

Nice photo and looks to be a nice Mal Mainlymax.

by MAINLYMAX on 16 November 2010 - 02:11

I have done both Schutzhund and FR Ring....

That dog was partly responsible for me going
into NVBK Belgium Ring Sport. And Bart was
my Morpheus..... he showed me the brave new world.

by zdog on 16 November 2010 - 03:11

I would bet the reality of it is they "heard" about too many dogs that have had their toes stepped on and broken. I doubt they have actually seen any, maybe one. I know more handlers that have broken a bone because of their dog, than the other way around.

I only wear cleats when it's really, really wet and we're trialing. If not, I wear regular shoes or boots in winter and that's about it. If I was on nothing but dirt and slipping all the time, I'd probably wear them

by BoCRon on 16 November 2010 - 04:11

All the helpers at our club have cleats. They don't wear them every practice, kind of depends on the weather and what part of the field we're using that day.
Annette

by vincentpmchugh on 16 November 2010 - 05:11

I am a Helper in a Schutzhund club and the same question popped into my head the first time I fell. The answer I got was, "How do you feel about your knees" I guess that they were saying they have seen more people hurt than dogs from someone wearing cleats. Traction is a big deal but as a helper the give needs to be there better you land on your ass then you jam a dog up, or tear or rip an ACL because your traction was good. I would never wear them, plus as a smart helper you should know how to be safe for you and the dog.

Plus when a dog takes you off your feet it is really good for there ego!!

P.S. For the first time Phil I agree with you!!!

by Two Moons on 16 November 2010 - 06:11

All those poor Football players.

by waleed on 16 November 2010 - 06:11

never mind

by Phil Behun on 16 November 2010 - 07:11

Yep, I still remember Gayle Sayers getting his knee blown out by Kermit Alexander in a game with the 49er's. Plant the foot in the ground and get hit,,,,,,,bad things happen. Knees go or in Joe Theismann's case legs snap and bones protrude.

by diesel on 16 November 2010 - 07:11

I recommend these - http://shop.leroi.de/shop/artikel/details.qx2?art_id=7798 These shoes are based on hockey shoes so will give you excellent support in your ankles, without doubt the best shoes I've used for this sport! I wear this particular model throughout the summer when the ground is hard & dry & then during the winter switch to football (soccer) boots with moulded studs. Been doing helper work here in the UK & Belgium/Holland for 20 years with never a problem! Best wishes Tom Nye

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