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by Gemini on 12 November 2010 - 19:11

Azure  Blue, good luck with your dogs would love to see pics when available. Sounds like you did some research and found what you were looking for with price "You are comfortable with". It is really fun when your research and taking your time payoff in the end.
Reggie

Red Sable

by Red Sable on 12 November 2010 - 21:11

We'd love to see pics!

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 13 November 2010 - 04:11

I do not believe money equals peace of mind.

clc29

by clc29 on 13 November 2010 - 18:11

I am not trying to be mean and am honestly trying to understand the concept of PP dogs but,,,,

Will somebody please explain to me why people seem to be more willing to put there lives and livelihood in the paws (hands) of a dog (and spend gobs of money) than learning how to protect themselves? If you are that fearful why don't you move into a safer area, get an alarm on your house, and take some self defense classes? Seems to me that in most cases it more of a status symbol.

Case in point: 
You go to the store,  leave the dog in the car, on your way back out to the car you are attacked. The dog can not protect you from inside the car so what are you going to do?
or
You are away and the dog is with you when your house is broken into?

C


by Columbohere on 14 November 2010 - 02:11

I agree with Sock puppet. I also would like to  see pics of these 10,000 dollar dogs side by side with you.   Something is fishy as SP so aptly pointed out.......... SHOW US THE PICTURES!!!!

Dick
 

Pirates Lair

by Pirates Lair on 14 November 2010 - 02:11

clc29

Where is a “Safe Area” these days? My wife works alone and always has one of our “Expensive PPD’s” with her to prevent being robbed or worse.

Self –Defense classes are only good for people who are predisposed to fight versus flight. We live in a small rural community, yet our home is also alarmed.

“Status” in owning a PPD, No, Liability, Yes. And peace of mind that you have taken steps to ensure your personal safety in a world of crazy people. Owning a PPD, at least for us, involves ongoing training to keep our dogs skills sharp, there is no status in work.

We do not live in fear, yet we know and acknowledge that we are responsible for our own personal safety. I would hope that our dogs never have to engage an assailant, but I am glad that they are there in case they do have to assist us.

Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum - "If you wish for peace, prepare for war" (Latin), usually interpreted as meaning peace through strength

Safety is not expensive, it’s priceless!

Kim Moore

Felloffher

by Felloffher on 14 November 2010 - 03:11

clc29

 In the event my dogs needed to engage someone they wouldn't be fighting alone, I would be right behind them. In most situations the dog will give a person the upper hand in a confrontation if they're fighting along side the dog. The dog is just one of the measures I've implemented in protecting my home and family. Call it insurance for a rainy day. 

 Leave the window down in if your concerned for your saftey outside the vehicle. 

If I'm not home one of my two dogs is in the house.

It's not like most people walk around with a sign on their dog saying $20,000.00 protection dog look at me. By the way none of my dogs are worth $20k. 

 


Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 14 November 2010 - 03:11

Well I am trained to fight, but that doesn't do squat for my daughter when I'm not home. The gun doesn't do anything for her either. Hopefully the dog gets it done. Safer area? Just because one doesn't live in a high crime area, doesn't mean that crime is non-existant. Wealthy homes get broken into as well.

clc29

by clc29 on 14 November 2010 - 04:11

Well it seems like I have ruffled some feathers anyway. Sorry not my intention.

This post struck a nerve for me. Here is a person who posts on a public forum that they found two PPD's and only spent $20,000 and apparently accomplished this in a very short period of time. Seems like bragging to me. I mean I am sure that there are a lot of you who have PPD's but don't come here and announce it, let alone tell everyone how much you spent to acquire them.

I did not mean to imply that there is not a need for PPD's. I know that there are real cases where people need a PPD for their own peace of mind or as a protector. However, I do not believe that a person should rely solely on a dog to keep them safe. Or that as Moons said," Money equals peace of mind".

Also, I firmly believe that ,

One, all women and both young or old should take a self defense course. I say women because they are usually the ones that are preyed upon first. My parents took my sister and I to a Police department sponsored class when we were pre-teen and I still remember some of the moves and the dos and don'ts.

Two, no matter how much you pay for a PPD it's not going to matter much if it's not continually conditioned and trained to keep it sharp.

Finally, if the dog is not with you or able to get to you how is it supposed to keep you safe?

C




Felloffher

by Felloffher on 14 November 2010 - 04:11

C

 I think any type of "personal protection" has inherent weaknesses and can be exploited. We could sit here and point out every possible "what if" scenario with any measure taken whether it be self defense training, gun ownership, dogs or ninja body guards. Nothing is fool proof, but I sleep well knowing the dog that's supposed to be on his mat, but is really on the couch is watching over us.





 


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