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by ALPHAPUP on 08 November 2010 - 00:11

sueincc.. yes there are diffrent factors to consider and some  to be concearned about .. my friend's canine : we can break a chair on this dogs head as he is on the sleeve and he wouldn't even flinch ..[ he has a kill instinct] ...  ok .. i am telling most folks here somehting they already know :" this dog is high in aggression , the bite suit is 6" double thick !! , he is high in harndess/ very very high  ..he  can take more than a hit !! ... and this dog  takes a meteor to stress him ... So ... IMO not the kind of dog you want for sport... my thought---  this is a dog i would personally put aside for police work selection too unless i worked the tact unit on the slum steeets of my neighborhood growing up. you can take it or leave it .. don't underetimate the quality and the quatity of the specific traits. and be careful for what you wish for becuase you know the expression .. you just mught get it ad more than what you bargained for !! one last thought .. some traits seem empirically linked : such as : all the canines that i have seen as independent, dominireering, agressive  ... they are the ones that usually had the inclination to be ' protestors ' and / or  you can often see those traits in intense form for handler biters. !! now i can't prove that sttatement , but observing and empirically ...   if you have worked a lot of dogs i think most would generally agree. !!.... puppy selection is very very important and also if you are a breeder placing pups to the right matching home.

Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 08 November 2010 - 00:11

Alpha, I fully understand what youre saying, but I personally wouldn't look for anything different whether i was shopping for a PD, SCH or PP puppy.  But that is a personal preference. 

Felloffher

by Felloffher on 08 November 2010 - 00:11

I just want to add, there's know right or wrong answer to the question it's all about personal preference.

sueincc

by sueincc on 08 November 2010 - 01:11

In your opinion Alpha, in your opinion.  I don't share your opinion.

Q Man

by Q Man on 08 November 2010 - 01:11

I think it's a very hard job to pick a good puppy out of a litter...Sometimes it's easier then others...I also think that it's not only knowing what to look for but to know how to look for it...And in saying this...It takes experience...Experience in looking at...observing...and know what you're seeing...

To say it on paper...is fairly easy...
I look for a Confident puppy...That's willing to go away from his base (from his owner/handler/mother) check his environment out...And then return to his base...
I look for a puppy  when  facing  strange or startling encounters...how he reacts... I want to see how he recovers...This is extremely important...
If I don't see good things that interest me from the list above...I don't need to look any farther...
But...if the above list is showing positive reactions then I'll look at the puppy's drives...But looking at the puppy's drives can be very misleading...
Never-the-less I will look at the puppy's Prey drive and want to see him play with and chase a ball on a rope....and maybe to see if he'll pick up and carry or play with a small stick or something...
If I'm still interested in the pup...I may pinch the puppy just to see he reacts...If he just doesn't react...that's fine...If he reacts some but recovers and doesn't keep acting towards it...then that's fine too...But if he either reacts and keeps on being bothered by it or if he really squeals from being pinched then this is a negative reaction...

Now...After doing all of the above you have the task of putting it all together and figuring out which one you like...Because each puppy will have some positive reactions and some negative ones...
In saying all of this...I would definitely rather have a puppy that's more even in all the tests then to take one that is really High in one phase and really Low in another...

And you always need a lot of luck...!

~Bob~


by ALPHAPUP on 08 November 2010 - 02:11

i always keep in mind there are many that read these posts ... opinions .. at least we can acknlowledge / accept each has their  opinions..  but for others reading the post .. i don't pay heed to 'prey drive' as such[ that just means the pup woill chase something - to boiler plate & cliche for me] .. i want  to see a 8 week pup climb a stair , run in a tunnel , run through a sprinkler..and more .. .all for the bite / i want to see if when i throw a ball that  the pup not only wants to run fast  and get it but i want to see what the pups does  when it does gets the ball . WHY .1. . it tells me about the pup .. and 2... after selecting the pup . what comes next ?? " how is one best going to train the pupas an individual !!. the biggest pet peeve i have .. oneshould  never train a dog , not knowing the dog  !! so even before i bring that pup home .. i already have a very good extrapolated idea of how i am going to connect with this pup and how /what i will  teach it .. /[ i start them in everything at 8 - 10 weeks] .  again just an opinion and --AOK .. others here take a different tact-  i can accept that. others just  reading at least have  a variety of posters' input .

Felloffher

by Felloffher on 08 November 2010 - 02:11

Alpha what is your breed of choice?

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 08 November 2010 - 02:11


           ALPHAPUP,,,,What is it you like to see a pup do when it gets the ball,,,????


                           Deanna...: )

Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 08 November 2010 - 03:11

Alpha, cliche? Ok, we had this discussion a couple years ago. And I hate to take this furthur of coarse than you already have, but I have to. So if you don't use terms like prey etc., please post a video of a dog doing buitwork and describe everything that is going on and everything you see without using these "cliche" terms. I'm really curious and actually looking forward to your take without them. I'm not trying to be funny or start a fight. I would truly love to hear what you have to say.

sueincc

by sueincc on 08 November 2010 - 16:11

I've always thought someone could carve out a niche for themselves and make a tidy sum if they could pick out all the stars in litters, raise them up to a year, get hip/elbow/spine clearances  and then sell them.  The trick would  be picking out the stars and then of course, not screwing them up in that year, basically just teach them manners. 





 


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