SV Standard colors - Page 2

PS. Can I order one in Clan Keith tartan? And who gives a flying fig what Malcolm Willis thinks should be the correct standard? That sounds like a lame excuse for a bunch of money-hungry breeders to me.

I give the guy a lot of credit, but even Malcom has published false information.

Vom Marischal -you have only picked up part of that particular discussion, and so have become confused.

No Carole (and Nellie), he wasn't since those are all colours acceptable in the standard already. This was in direct response to a post by Carole and Nellie (in response to mine) saying that they thought MW must have meant sables, blacks and bi-color (which are in any GSD standard I think you will find)


Missbeeb -" If whites are isolated, they will become inferior because of limited bloodlines available" - suggests he means breeding them, otherwise why would the bloodlines be relevant? The bloodlines could only be improved by breeding with other lines, to prevent them becoming isolated and consequently inferior. Don't you think?

Daryl - This is not 'information published', this is his opinion as a geneticist, but of course you are entitled to question the validity of his opinion.  I am curious though to know what false information he published?

Dingodog, none I think, because I searched. Didn't mean to insult the man, sorry, but really the KC or the AKC or the SV are the ones who have the say-so, not him.

EDIT TO INCLUDE:
However, I don't know how much I agree with Mr. Willis' breeding standards when this is the cover of his book:


Actually, in reference to the note above to Missbeeb, it sounds more like he's saying NOT to breed them because bloodlines are so limited. IMO.

the dog on the cover is Manhatan, the only gsd to ever win westerminster dog show

Yes, I actually met him once. 

even the top winning Best in Show dog in history, Altana's Mystique never went BIS at the garden.  So whats the big deal in a picture of Manhatan being on the cover? 

"If whites are isolated, they will become inferior because of limited bloodlines available. A more thoughtful approach would be to consider and include them."

doesn't sound to me like he said to remove them from breeding.  sounds to me like he is saying if they are removed, the gene pool will become small and the dogs will suffer for it.  same reason the white breeders and clubs in the US don't want a seperate breed.

I'm sorry. I'm just a working lines person. To me he looks like an Alsatian. No offense.