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Stop, coddling your dog and correct him like an aggressive GSD should be corrected!  He's not a baby or a puppy anymore.  You need to realize that he is becoming a liability and you are causing that. Stop enabling his bad behavior. 

First off, there is no need for people to pet your dog when he has a temperament like that and you do not have complete control over him.  He should have been severely corrected.  A severe correction for you should be on the magnitude of 10 times harder that what you think the dog can handle or what you think is harsh.  I can assure you my corrections are harder than yours, they are also more effective and more humane to the dog.  Inappropriate aggression can not be tolerated and someone is going to get hurt. 

I think you are too nice and this is very detrimental to your dog.  Stop looking for the nansy pansy trainers and get with one that can teach you how to correct your dog.  I guarantee your dog wouldn't pull that crap with me.  The dog needs to learn that he can not display aggression inappropriately and there are severe consequences for that.  There is no grey areas in dog training, only black and white.   

I believe you do not understand what your are dealing with.  He has the potential to hurt someone and you can not stop him right now.  Fortunately for you, I do not think he is a super aggressive dog or a very seriously tough dog.  He just needs a good, strong handler that can take charge.  I do not see a big problem with him growling at strangers who try to pet him.  That is his temperament, don't let strangers pet him, ever.  Or until you get some complete control over him. 

I posted some info a while ago on dealing with aggressive dogs and using Tabasco sauce, research those threads.  I know how I would handle this, but I won't post it here.  PM me if you like. 

First step for you is to realize that corrections won't hurt your dog.  Learn to correct your dog more sternly than you think is necessary and take charge, Stop thinking of him like a cute puppy and take charge.

Jim

Donald Deluxe, I miss understood your question on my post above .....The first time he reacted after the contact was made... The second time at the approached.

Moons....I think he remebers the incident that happened when he was almost 4 months old when the male trainer scared the heck out of him. I am not sure why he would react to the famale trainer.

raymond....I will not be going back, I was KICKED OUT....

Doanald he was on leash....

Where did your original post go? It's obvious your trainers are lacking, always was. So......... what about the correction and the equipment. Moons.

Sorry, if I sound harsh. I do not mean to offend you.  No one will be able to help you until you realize that you must take control of your dog and this involves giving the dog some good corrections.  

I just read about putting the dog in a sit stay and having the trainer try to pet him.  This is not necessary at all.  My male would have done the same thing at 12 months and he would have meant it.  He doesn't like strangers touching him and I don't blame him.  I also don't allow strangers to give my dog food.  Prince is not Lassie and with his temperament he may never be overly firendly with strangers.  You know this dog has the potential to be aggressive, that is your dog.  You can never trust this dog 100%, never that's life.  You need to accept this and work towards resolving this. 

I can not believe it disappeared...........

Who didn't see this coming a mile away.

Moons...I use a leather lead and a pronged collar.


            WHERE DID MY ORIGINAL POST GO  ??????                           

Ruger - I sent you a PM.  Actually, two.  The first one has a link that you may or may not already have.

Over the years I've taken three of my dogs for one-on-one basic obedience training to a trainer who handles aggressive dogs EXACTLY as Jim prescribes.  

One of my dogs who trained with the guy  became aggressive toward my older male when he hit adolescence  I let the trainer know what was going on, and he had us come in for some "post-graduate" work.  

This involved the trainer put him in a down position, and then me heeling my older dog right over him repeatedly - and even the slightest lip curl brought immediate and severe reprisals.  We then swapped dogs and I was the one giving him the corrections.  

After a few visits the feisty one - a very strong and stubborn dog that needed very strong corrections - figured out that going after the older one just wasn't worth it, and while I can't say the two dogs ALWAYS lived happily ever after together, the level of canine-to-canine aggression dropped to a manageable level for all involved.

With that in mind, understand that all I faced was a tough, dominant dog who wanted to pummel my other dog, so my issues were all internal to me.  You've got a dog that is people-aggressive that can get you sued for hundreds of thousands of dollars if you don't gain complete control over him and he tears someone up.  This could happen out in public, on your property or even in your home.  

At this point, you need to keep him away from strangers until you get control over him, and this means not even taking him out on the street for walks - because what's going to happen when some little kid unafraid of dogs comes rushing up to him screaming "Doggie doggie doggie!" and the dog goes "Fuck you, kid!" and takes matters into his own jaws?  And it also means keeping him away from guests in your yard and home too, until he is made safe.