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GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 24 April 2010 - 15:04

No Hodie, I have seen plenty of times where said he did this or that.....when that is not what he did at all........said he meant this or that.....and that's not quite what he said at all either.  It has nothing to do whether or not I disagree or agree.  I don't use "his methods" I use what I find that works the best for each individual dog

Jackal73

by Jackal73 on 24 April 2010 - 15:04

  I can't cound how many on here have lied or missinterpreted what he really said.


And maybe if people keep interpreting things wrong, then the way it's presented on the show is at fault.  I really don't care one way or another about Mr. Millan, but when you get people trying to emulate what they saw on t.v. and consistently getting it *wrong*, then it's advisable to provide them with helpful information instead.  (Honestly, he makes claims like "if the dog walks in front of you he thinks he's the leader" -- that's not true.   Where the dogs walks in relation to you isn't the important bit, it's that he's paying attention to you and where you want to go.  The dog being higher than you (i.e. on the furniture) is *not* an indicator of status, it's whether or not the dog respects your request to move, get off, or not get up in the first place.)  Read that first link I provided, which talks about the misunderstanding and misapplication of dominance theory.   It's not just The Dog Whisperer that gets it wrong, it's misunderstood by popular culture in general.  As humans we place far more weight on "rank" than dogs actually do.

It's also great to see more people who like Patricia McConnell's stuff AKGeorgias mom.  I really like her books, and Brenda Aloff's.  Unfortunately I live at the back end of nowhere(TM) and couldn't actually attend any of their seminars.

ZIN

by ZIN on 24 April 2010 - 15:04

QUOTE.."" he made comment that never allow your puppy/dog to jump on you because jumping on a person is a way  by which dogs exert his dominance and it may lead to future dominance/aggressiveness problems in a dog

Yes allowing any dog to jump on you will lead to nothing good.
Yes jumping on a person is a way dogs exert dominance & may lead dominance/ aggression isuues.  KEY WORDS. "A WAY" meaning 1 way.        ." MAY LEAD  meaning could a future possiblitylty "

Nobody likes a dog jumping on you not the owner of the dog or the person being jumped on.
Can it lead to unwanted bad behavior?   YES IT CAN .



by deemo222 on 24 April 2010 - 15:04

i dont think his show is meant to be used as a tool in training but its just for entertainment.

by workingdawg on 24 April 2010 - 16:04

Cesar Millan training secret explained

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiAQh54-kMg

language is not for children....

ZIN

by ZIN on 24 April 2010 - 16:04

This was the question in question,,,LOL

comment that never allow your puppy/dog to jump on you because jumping on a person is a way by which dog exert his dominance and it may lead to future dominance/aggressiveness problems in a dog.

NOT WHAT EVERYONE THINKS OF CESAR MILLAN     LETS ANSWER THE QUESTION.




by Nans gsd on 24 April 2010 - 16:04

I think you all have to remember that Cesar Millan is a dog physocologist not a dog trainer;  and of course, when you are teaching a young puppy like that you would not want him to jump, bite or scratch;  you cannot let him do any of that at his young tender age.  Whether it means dominance or not it doesn't matter;  he cannot behave like that and now is the time and place to stop it.  nip it in the bud so to speak.  This is a very impressionable age and his ground work training will stay with him for the rest of his life so don't screw it up now or you will have serious consquences later.  Nan

by hodie on 24 April 2010 - 16:04

Thanks workingdog for that link. Pretty funny!

Cesar is NOT a dog psychologist.....

And several people ALREADY answered the question. Teaching your pup, early on, good manners and what is and is not allowed, be it jumping on people, taking food off a table or peeing in the house, is good practice. Doing so early on helps develop a good relationship. There are many ways to do it successfully.

GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 24 April 2010 - 16:04

workingdawg, nice video

by Vixen on 24 April 2010 - 16:04

Hello Troy,  Can I remind you of your initial comment:  "he will not allow any of us seat quietly"! 

Now your youngster is already imposing and being bossy with you.  You do need to be more authoritive.  This obviously does not mean the need to shout and be nasty.  It does mean that you start teaching and guiding your dog in a manner that you wish him to behave, in a confident self-assured way.  You must remain consistent and ensure that you lead successfully.  That way your dog learns to listen, take notice and trust you.

I personally follow the dynamics of the natural pack thinking system.  Because of this we never have to teach our puppies/dogs not to jump, because they instinctively do not leap up at their 'Seniors/Alphas'. 

You mentioned he is very active, well teach him to lay down and remain down for a period of time.  This will calm and relax him, and help him to recognise that you will control movement within your pack.  Nothing nicer than a puppy/dog laying happy and quiet by your side.  (You can almost feel each other breathing, rather than feeling paws grappling all over you)!!   LOL


Kind Regards,
Vixen






 


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